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Mellotron

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Jul 2, 2008
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Davy Propper - just his first game or so really - looked half asleep compared to the pace and intensity of the Prem.

Pretty sure his first ever league game was against Man City as well, to be fair to him.
 


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Oct 8, 2003
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Lewis Dunk.

After a bright start, Poyet decided he didn't rate him, favouring El Bad and Upson, and Dunky even went out on loan. His career with us paradoxically rescued by Hyypia.

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Flounce

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Nov 15, 2006
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Lewis Dunk.

After a bright start, Poyet decided he didn't rate him, favouring El Bad and Upson, and Dunky even went out on loan. His career with us paradoxically rescued by Hyypia.

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Quite a few on here were offering to drive him to Fulham when they bid for him. Liability was the word used about him!
 




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Oct 8, 2003
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Quite a few on here were offering to drive him to Fulham when they bid for him. Liability was the word used about him!
A good man manager can see attributes that can be developed and has the skills bring them out.
Hyypia was an enigma...in Germany his team were doing well till his assistants left....
I suspect Hyypia could have been a great wing man.
He had the good sense to accept he was not a leader at Livrpool, when the captaincy was taken from him,
and given to Gerrard.
The Peter Taylor that got away?
 


papachris

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I remember Gordon Greer was sent off on his debut for decking an opposition player. And he turned out pretty good.
In more recent times Mats Weiffer was slated for 'that misplaced pass'. And written off by many.
Towards the end of the season he improved every match even though he was doing a job filling in at right back.
I'm sure he's going to be agood player for us next season
 


BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
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It feels like many/most of our players have been written off by some posters.

Still waiting for some of our posters to come good.

Wasn't someone slagging of Hinshelwood last season or the beginning of this one? 😂😂
 






Don Tmatter

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Jul 7, 2003
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Davy Propper - just his first game or so really - looked half asleep compared to the pace and intensity of the Prem.

Pretty sure his first ever league game was against Man City as well, to be fair to him.
Didnt he sign on the Mon/Tues and cos of injury to Kayal played on the Saturday v City?
 


JBizzle

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Apr 18, 2010
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Seaford
Lewis Dunk.

After a bright start, Poyet decided he didn't rate him, favouring El Bad and Upson, and Dunky even went out on loan. His career with us paradoxically rescued by Hyypia.
First things first, don't you EVER diss El-Abd. People forget that he was a massive player for Poyet for the right reasons. He was instrumental in one of my favourite seasons of all time, as the main partner for the unreal Gordon Greer although, in truth, El Abd started more games so maybe it was the other way around. He might even qualify for this thread as a player who started bad and ended up good.

More on topic though: Mats Weiffer
 






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Oct 8, 2003
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First things first, don't you EVER diss El-Abd. People forget that he was a massive player for Poyet for the right reasons. He was instrumental in one of my favourite seasons of all time, as the main partner for the unreal Gordon Greer although, in truth, El Abd started more games so maybe it was the other way around. He might even qualify for this thread as a player who started bad and ended up good.

More on topic though: Mats Weiffer
Where did I 'diss' El Bad? I simply said Poyet favoured him.
Adam was a player transformed from a hoofing full back to someone who could play.
And the way he cleared out a defensive wall allowing Vicente to score from a free kick one time was a thing of great beauty.
Also the way he wound up opposition players was turbo Veltman.
He ruined David Nugent, for example.

Better now? :wink:
 
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Zeberdi

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Oct 20, 2022
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Out of our current squad, Ayari - sent out on loan by RDZ after one start and 2 subs but for me, had a breakout season last season benefitting from accumulating injuries in our midfield. Baleba didn’t impress fans or RDZ much at first still reeling from losing Caicedo (who himself needed a development loan before his eventual breakthrough season with us).

I think fans sometimes forget that young players need a few seasons to show their potential - Ayari last season was imo a classic case of what happens when you give youngsters the opportunity to play regularly which doesn’t always come frequently enough for them when others are above them in the team selection.
 


JBizzle

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Apr 18, 2010
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Seaford
Where did I 'diss' El Bad? I simply said Poyet favoured him.
Adam was a player transformed from a hoofing full back to someone who could play.
And the way he cleared out a defensive wall allowing Vicente to score from a free kick one time was a thing of great beauty.
Also the way he woubd up opposition players was turbo Veltman.
He ruined David Nugent, for example.

Better now? :wink:
I mean, "El Bad" :ROFLMAO:
 




METALMICKY

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Jan 30, 2004
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John Crumplin has to be worth a shout, arrived at the Albion as a terrible winger, but a change of position to full back saw a definite improvement - especially against John Barnes at Anfield as I recall?
Johnny Crumplin ' Football Genius ' . The Gulls Eye t shirt is still somewhere in the house.
 




Arthur

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Jul 8, 2003
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Baleba didn’t impress fans or RDZ much at first still reeling from losing Caicedo (who himself needed a development loan before his eventual breakthrough season with us).
Baleba is a great shout. Seem to recall in those first few games most of his second touches were a tackle. He looked like a right headless chicken and a nailed on booking every game. Whoever is responsible for his development should give themselves a very firm pat on the back.
 


keaton

Big heart, hot blood and balls. Big balls
Nov 18, 2004
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How is a midget slow CB ever going to make it in the PL? He hasn’t made an appearance since his debut says it all.
He never played in the PL but I'm sure 5"9 Cannavaro was decent. He's also apparently the same height as Baresi.. Or Ake etc
 


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