Should we be made to carry ID cards?

[Sorrel]

If they were to work properly, and be unable to forge then I'd be very much in favour of them.

However, if it were to waste a huge amount of money, and not really change anything, then I don't see the point.

The only truly working system can happen when you have DNA cards, and organisations with the power to take DNA samples from people. What organisations they are, is of course rather important. But any other system can be forged.

So, I think they are a good idea, in principle, but I wouldn't bother yet if I were the government. I'd wait five or six years.

 

[desprateseagull]

dont think it will happen

they couldnt even get passports sorted, when a private firm
did the processing a year or so back...

and what about the security of our personal info?

how much will be on there, that we dont get told about,
or other (unrelated) services could see?

what if it failed, would we be prevented from accessing
essential services - hospital treatment, tramnsport, etc?

would non users be treated like social outcasts? or will
there be a two / multi tier system, where you will have to
pay, to get better / other stuff?

i have a pssport for a reason (foreign travel), and a drivers
licence for a reason - to show i am allowed (not ncessarily
very able!) to drive a car...

I do feel visitors / refugees need to have some insurance, or
a bond arranged before they are let in, as the NHS is being
overstretched as it is.

i am not racist, just realistic. btw, a good friend settled here
from overseas, and is in full time employment, with no drain on UK social or other services...

 

[chemical brother]

I have never seen such a bunch of idiotic comments in my life. It's sad and extremely depressing. What is wrong with you people? You are all walking round with your eyes closed.

Please take a look here and educate yourselves on what a monstrosity this idea really is.

xx

 

[Hamilton]

Great site Chemical.

Good post

 

[Hamilton]

If they were larger and softer you could wipe your arse with them as well

 

[chemical brother]

xx

 

[fatbadger]

Nothing to hide, nothing to hide ... what a load of bollocks. Just remember that the people who want to give us these cards are also the people who decide what we have to hide. And once they're in, nobody will be able to get rid of them. And who knows what governments will be due to us in the next few decades. Remember the 'land of the free' now has a government that is making certain political views illegal - and we're not far behind. Blunkett would love that - and as every government seems to believe that the biggest idiot in their senior ranks ought to be Home Secretary, God only knows who will be next.

Seeing this as benign, as intended for benign purposes, or as being for the benefit of us all needs to wake up and crawl out of their profoundly stupid fog.

 

[Seagull Stew]

I will give two examples off the top of my head as to why being forced to carry an ID card is a breach of civil liberties, both would personally affect my family.

1. I am a keen jogger and like nothing more on a nice hot day to throw on a t-shirt, shorts and trainers and go for a long run. (Granted, many of you will say that this should be an arrestible offence anyway). Technically, what alot of you are saying is that if I don't find a place to store my ID card then I am breaking the law. Don't know if any of you have tried running 10 miles with a credit card in your hand but it would be a major f***ing inconvenience. My running shorts don't have pockets and stuffing it in my socks would not be a particularly comfortable experience. But I could be stopped and arrested for not having one on me.

2. My Other half suffers from anxiety attacks, which leads to panic attacks which is not a pretty sight. You might find this quite hard to believe but something as simple as having to remember to carry a particular card whenever she wants to go to walk the dog could potentially trigger off one of these attacks.

I'm all for ID cards, for whenever you want to claim benefits, but to make it an arrestible offence to go outside the boundaries of your own property without one has to be a breach of civil liberties.

 

[desprateseagull]

another thought, what about people on holiday here, or on business from places without ID systems... wil they be allowed in?? or get help if needed?

 

[MRRF 10]

it's a stupid idea, don't bring them in

 

[desprateseagull]

http://www.number-10.gov.uk/output/Page869.asp

let no.10 know how you feel on their site....

 

[Lord Bracknell]

I will give two examples off the top of my head as to why being forced to carry an ID card is a breach of civil liberties, both would personally affect my family.

1. I am a keen jogger and like nothing more on a nice hot day to throw on a t-shirt, shorts and trainers and go for a long run. (Granted, many of you will say that this should be an arrestible offence anyway). Technically, what alot of you are saying is that if I don't find a place to store my ID card then I am breaking the law. Don't know if any of you have tried running 10 miles with a credit card in your hand but it would be a major f***ing inconvenience. My running shorts don't have pockets and stuffing it in my socks would not be a particularly comfortable experience. But I could be stopped and arrested for not having one on me.

2. My Other half suffers from anxiety attacks, which leads to panic attacks which is not a pretty sight. You might find this quite hard to believe but something as simple as having to remember to carry a particular card whenever she wants to go to walk the dog could potentially trigger off one of these attacks.

I'm all for ID cards, for whenever you want to claim benefits, but to make it an arrestible offence to go outside the boundaries of your own property without one has to be a breach of civil liberties.

Provided you're white, you won't have anything to worry about. As long as you speak with a local accent that is.

Which is precisely what's wrong with them.