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theonesmith

Well-known member
Oct 27, 2008
2,339
Now I may be wrong, but I have a strong belief its the back room that needs looking at rather than the manager, he needs a lieutenant type no.2 with coaching "Expertise".

Again, I may be wrong on this!

'Tis a tricky one- as I have no idea as to their skill level or their influence on the team. But I wouldn't mind at least bringing in another coach, as I still regret us getting rid of Ian Chapman.
 






Northstander

Well-known member
Oct 13, 2003
14,036
I never had any doubt at all that Slade was the man for the job. But today, for the first time, doubts are starting to creep in. It's such a shame. :(

That is how I feel, I want to stick by him, he is a top geezer and tells it how it is, I want him to succeed but something is clearly wrong!

:down::down:
 


withdeanwombat

Well-known member
Feb 17, 2005
8,791
Somersetshire
Mr Slade is in danger of losing his job.Whilst I concur with the view that the players are letting him (and us) down my greatest fear surrounds the names that have been aired as a possible replacement.What if Mr Bloom opts for Mr Wise,Mr Stevens or Mr Lloyd?

Yes,yes,I know some would like to see Mr Coppell come back,and Mr McGhee is not available,and the mantra of stability attracts others so retain Mr Slade,but who would be realistically attracted to this post?

Grimsby have already beaten us to the England Ladies manager,and Mr Sverricson is at Notts.The chap on gardening leave from Cheltenham could dig us out of a hole,I suppose.

Whatever,do we have to suffer as now,and hope for the Dunkirk spirit again next spring?
The clocks change tonight,so it'll be darker tomorrow evening,and for many,many more tomorrows unless something changes.

So,sadly,it's goodbye Mr Slade,though with little enthusiasm and a dread that things will get worse before they improve.Sorry,if they improve.
 


theonesmith

Well-known member
Oct 27, 2008
2,339
That is how I feel, I want to stick by him, he is a top geezer and tells it how it is, I want him to succeed but something is clearly wrong!

:down::down:

But what stage of the process is going wrong? Is it the managers fault? That's the question.

Incidentally, Forster's Armband who has been vehemently against Slade for a while now and started this thread is neglecting it and any structured debate that could follow.
 




Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
72,015
Is it possible to be unlucky for a whole season? I think we may be trying to prove that it is. I've advocated giving Slade time but you'd have to be a moron not to hear alarm bells ringing. Is the job too big for him?( I know that may sound ridiculous but I doubt he's been anywhere else with as much pressure to get it right quickly). He must be very close to getting the sack now.
 


Bluejuice

Lazy as a rug on Valium
Sep 2, 2004
8,270
The free state of Kemp Town
I never had any doubt at all that Slade was the man for the job. But today, for the first time, doubts are starting to creep in. It's such a shame. :(

I hate to say it but I feel like I'm in the same boat. Until today I had dismissed the naysayers as overreacting to a bit of a slow start but the stink of it is that everything's going remarkably like it did last season when we were VERY lucky not to go down and losing successive games to poor opposition having picked up a good result against Gillingham that we really should be building on does leave me questioning whether, unfortunately, the buck does stop with Slade.

HOWEVER what I don't want to see is Slade getting the chop when there's nothing better lined up. People on the phone in suggesting Gareth Southgate are well wide of the mark in my eyes and as much as I'd love him to return I can't see Coppell would be interested as his stock is still pretty high despite stuttering a bit with Reading.

When we ditched Micky, which in hindsight it appears did need to be done, we were mostly left a bit underwhelmed having been turned down by the flashy name of Paul Ince and being left with the not so glitzy Russell Slade and even though it seemed to have paid off then in the short term if we pull the plug on him now who is it we think we can bring in? It strikes me that fans are desperate for some magician to come in with a whole new back room team to really mix things up but realistically we're only going to be able to pluck somebody out of mediocre obscurity OR an enthusiastic youngster who simply doesn't have the experience to really put our players in line.

I remember when Brian Horton came along and started getting results before Micky's first stint and the word from the dressing room was that he ruled with an iron fist, leaving the players frightened of underperforming. I don't know what Slade is like in the dressing room but if he is a strict disciplinarian then he obviously doesn't command enough respect as the players aren't showing any signs of having the fear of god put up them.

It's so frustrating that we've spent good money, we have players of a recognisably decent calibre who are justifiably valuable and the squad seems to be as big as I can remember with competition for every position yet we are going nowhere.

I just wish I could believe in Slade and get behind him to turn things round 100% rather than being in this limbo position where I really just don't know what I want, or what it is that we are lacking
 






I am a fan of Slade, but he has to be held to account for these results.
SOMEHOW we played a decent game v Gills, but immediately turned to utter shite again pronto.

Training is rubbish, tactics are rubbish, defence is rubbish, results are rubbish = manager is rubbish.
 


Barnham Seagull

Yapton Actually
Dec 28, 2005
2,353
Yapton
Sorry I didn't seem to make myself clear. I meant what the problem is with our team and why we are in this position. Today we hit the bar twice, had an open goal with Nicky Forster which he put over and had around 18 corners and set pieces. On the whole we dominated possession. I do disagree with some of his selection choices but at the same time I see why he did it- he just wanted to keep a clean sheet, keep it tight and with Bennett, Forster and Dickinson you would expect us to score.

The point I attempted to make which you clearly misinterpreted was that I don't see the problem with the process of training through to the end of a match, because something is going wrong.


Poor teams are generaly those that concede soft goals and cannot score at the other end.

We are a poor team.

Looking good in patches and having a bit of possesion does not make us any better.
 


seagullsovergrimsby

#cpfctinpotclub
Aug 21, 2005
44,126
Crap Town
Whats happening now is what happened when RS was in charge at Grimsby. They were top of the league looking forward to automatic promotion , he then changed the style and squad about and they went on a dismal run of form and only made the play offs. He resigned after losing the play off final when told the club didn't have a transfer kitty for him to plunder for a second season in a row in the same division.
 




wigman

Well-known member
Oct 10, 2006
4,776
East Preston
I like Big Russ,he kept us up last season and fully deserved his contract.
Last weeks defeat at Tranmere was hard to take but he had my support,but i left on 80 mins today after the 2nd goal and im beginning to lose faith.
If he is still here next Saturday then it must be 3 points or he will be gone.
 


Scoffers

Well-known member
Jan 13, 2004
6,878
Burgess Hill
Today, for the first time, i have truly doubted Slade. I also saw Dicker have a go at Dickinson and Forster, and getting a volley of abuse back from both of them. Not a good sign when that happens.

We were woeful today, beaten by a very poor side. You'd have to think 5 home defeats, plus the manner of todays performance would be enough for Bloom to pull the plug on the Slade era.
 


theonesmith

Well-known member
Oct 27, 2008
2,339
I hate to say it but I feel like I'm in the same boat. Until today I had dismissed the naysayers as overreacting to a bit of a slow start but the stink of it is that everything's going remarkably like it did last season when we were VERY lucky not to go down and losing successive games to poor opposition having picked up a good result against Gillingham that we really should be building on does leave me questioning whether, unfortunately, the buck does stop with Slade.

HOWEVER what I don't want to see is Slade getting the chop when there's nothing better lined up. People on the phone in suggesting Gareth Southgate are well wide of the mark in my eyes and as much as I'd love him to return I can't see Coppell would be interested as his stock is still pretty high despite stuttering a bit with Reading.

When we ditched Micky, which in hindsight it appears did need to be done, we were mostly left a bit underwhelmed having been turned down by the flashy name of Paul Ince and being left with the not so glitzy Russell Slade and even though it seemed to have paid off then in the short term if we pull the plug on him now who is it we think we can bring in? It strikes me that fans are desperate for some magician to come in with a whole new back room team to really mix things up but realistically we're only going to be able to pluck somebody out of mediocre obscurity OR an enthusiastic youngster who simply doesn't have the experience to really put our players in line.

I remember when Brian Horton came along and started getting results before Micky's first stint and the word from the dressing room was that he ruled with an iron fist, leaving the players frightened of underperforming. I don't know what Slade is like in the dressing room but if he is a strict disciplinarian then he obviously doesn't command enough respect as the players aren't showing any signs of having the fear of god put up them.

It's so frustrating that we've spent good money, we have players of a recognisably decent calibre who are justifiably valuable and the squad seems to be as big as I can remember with competition for every position yet we are going nowhere.

I just wish I could believe in Slade and get behind him to turn things round 100% rather than being in this limbo position where I really just don't know what I want, or what it is that we are lacking

Pretty much how I feel. Let's hope things turn round.
 




J2 DOG

Active member
Feb 28, 2009
672
Hove
It does seem like the club is going to lose another good man and another good manager! There seems to be some serious problems in team morale,the same problems that ousted Micky Adams ,probably caused by the same people. I think we have too many semi professional attitudes within the club that need to be sorted.These people are earning professional wages and giving f*** all back.Disgrace!
 


Lifelong Supporter

Well-known member
Aug 4, 2009
2,183
Burgess Hill
I am very much with Bluejuice.

I believe we should accept that we are not an attractive club for a new manager and the expectations of whom we might attract are way off the mark. Alongside this is the fact that Russell has the best part of a two year contract which, if terminated, will likely cost the chairman a good six figure sum.

As I have posted before I expect Russell to have until Christmas at least. He should have that anyway. Hopefully the forthcoming matches against, at least on paper more challenging teams, will motivate the players and some results will follow. These teams are not worldbeaters, that is why they are in this division.

Every new game starts 0:0 with everything to play for.
 


Djmiles

Barndoor Holroyd
Dec 1, 2005
12,074
Kitchener, Canada
I was still right behind him until a few weeks ago, but the performances have been DIRE. Stop kidding yourself Russel, we are SHIT.
 


the wanderbus

Well-known member
Dec 7, 2004
3,027
pogle's wood
Slade talks a good game, until tonight he had the best interview technique of any manager we've had in years. BUT is he able to change the losing mentality of the side for a second time? I dont think so, the clocks go back tonight & if your in the relegation zone at this time of year you have to get a new man in while he's got time to turn things around.We were to patient last year & it nearly got us relegated.
 




kevtherev

Well-known member
Feb 28, 2008
10,471
Tunbridge Wells
I totaly disagree that we are not an attractive club to manage, this would have been the case over the last 8 or 9 years with the ground situation and we still got, Coppell, McGhee, Taylor.....As for now we have a wealthly chairman, we are 18 mths away from moving into a fantastic stadium and its a lovely part of the contry to live in....I would think its a fantastic job for any manager, who can see farther down the road than a year and a half(not a long time at all)...My 1st choice would be Coppell, havin said that i would not be against Wise/Poyet, unpopular i know, but i for 1 would love us to have that nasty edge about us and get a winning mentality.
 


DIFFBROOK

Really Up the Junction
Feb 3, 2005
2,275
Yorkshire
I think we missed a trick in not getting rid of White/Booker when finally appointing Slade. Now I wont say that they are bad coaches as I simply dont know. Infact Booker has his coaching badges, so technically he is a good coach. But in away its not the point. The players may have stopped listening.

The players need coaching. Slade/Coppell/Wise or whoever cant coach all by themselves. So that needs addressing and pretty quick.

What I dont understand is why Slade didn't change the set up? Thats maybe the biggest mistake he has made. One that will probably cost him

If we are to sack the manager, then we really need to do the thing prpoerly. New manager and his team. A big shake up.

Also, I think we are a big attraction if done now. We weren't a big attraction last year as any manager probably thought it too late to do anything and we would be playing L2. Who would want that?

But if its really a new manager, then yes I do believe that we can attract Coppell back. We lost him as a L1 side, not cos of what division we are in, but due to Falmer being a long way off.

Bloom has a lot of thinking to do
 


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