[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

[raymondo]

While these Ukrainian drone attacks have been getting lots of attention, it’s worrying to note that Russia has been making a fair bit of progress on the ground in recent days. It’s not all good news.

It's true. Personally I tend to post the good news more than the bad news. Russia is making small gains in a few areas but at a very high loss rate (soldiers and equipment) - the thing is we're all waiting to see if that loss rate will (when) be visible in some Ukrainian gains on the ground.
Also news reports that Russia is moving troops from Crimea and Kherson to try to make more ground in Sumy region.

I guess we'll have to see. The constant disruption/destruction of manufacturing, aircraft and supplies must at some point () create more weaknesses in the Russian position.

 

[fly high]

It's true. Personally I tend to post the good news more than the bad news. Russia is making small gains in a few areas but at a very high loss rate (soldiers and equipment) - the thing is we're all waiting to see if that loss rate will (when) be visible in some Ukrainian gains on the ground.
Also news reports that Russia is moving troops from Crimea and Kherson to try to make more ground in Sumy region.

I guess we'll have to see. The constant disruption/destruction of manufacturing, aircraft and supplies must at some point () create more weaknesses in the Russian position.

Surely thier next move should be take out the troops before they attack. Legitimate target.

 

[raymondo]

Surely thier next move should be take out the troops before they attack. Legitimate target.

I think so, but maybe they're not concentrated, perhaps in small pockets. It's not very transparent to us.

 

[raymondo]

Blimey...big numbers

 

[GoldstoneVintage]

Blimey...big numbers

Translation: Europe, pull your fookin fingers out!

 

[GoldstoneVintage]

I'm a bit confused, but...good!

On the other hand... https://kyivindependent.com/not-eve...ban-questions-russias-ability-to-attack-nato/

 

[Eric the meek]

On the other hand... https://kyivindependent.com/not-eve...ban-questions-russias-ability-to-attack-nato/

This seems to have been be reported on the same day.

So the message is now one of confusion. Two diammetrically opposed views on one day. Both from Orban. He will no doubt argue that they aren't, but the effect of them is to obfuscate. Introduce a lack of clarity. Now where have we seen this before?

At least the Russians use different people to issue their contradictions to wrongfoot the enemy.

 

[raymondo]

On the other hand... https://kyivindependent.com/not-eve...ban-questions-russias-ability-to-attack-nato/

That sounds more like him

 

[raymondo]

On the other hand... https://kyivindependent.com/not-eve...ban-questions-russias-ability-to-attack-nato/

Hmmm... I think the strategic agreement with Russia should be...get back behind your own borders.

 

[Eric the meek]

The next generation of weapons from Ukraine - small, cheap and deadly drone powered cruise missiles.

Or to put it another way, Russia may have chosen the wrong country to invade.

 

[GT49er]

Blimey...big numbers

Think, 'Oh shit!' just about sums up that piece of news!

 

[GT49er]

On the other hand... https://kyivindependent.com/not-eve...ban-questions-russias-ability-to-attack-nato/

About time Orban decided which side to be on, then.

 

[Nobby]

Blimey...big numbers

He forgot to mention they’ve teamed up with the USA too

 

[Eric the meek]

About time Orban decided which side to be on, then.

I think he did that a long time ago. What you are seeing now is a belated attempt at maskirovka. Confuse. Distract. Deflect. Obfuscate. IMO.

 

[GT49er]

I think he did that a long time ago. What you are seeing now is a belated attempt at maskirovka. Confuse. Distract. Deflect. Obfuscate. IMO.

Oh. Guess it sucked me in then.

 

[Eric the meek]

Oh. Guess it sucked me in then.

It's happened to all of us on here at some stage. Just recently, you saw someone get engrossed in the environmental impact of war on here.

I believe that came directly from the Kremlin. It always seeks to drive the narrative. It is very, very good at it.