Realistically, what would have to happen in order for....

[the full harris]

Re: Re: Realistically, what would have to happen in order for....

Great innit? It's called having brilliant loyal fans - sorry it sticks in yer goonish gob *notsorryatallreally*

Does it remind you of when we nearly went out of the league in '97?

 

[London Irish]

I didnt see the game today, but in all fairness if they didnt put the effort in today I think thats fair enough that people wouldn't want to clap them off.

All I ask is that people give 100%.

But that's not what happened, though, football is rarely that simple and straightforward as players giving up. Maybe we could fault CKR for his movement and fitness levels if you wanted to be really ultra-critical, but Crewe just passed the ball and made us run around ineffectually. We had plenty of effort, just very little class, shocker of a fluke goal, defensive error, and it's all over.

The players did battle for the 90 and that's why I clapped them, and I'll always do that if they work hard, regardless of how gutting the result is.

 

[Yorkie]

I said 'news reports' - could be newspapers, could also be the web, the radio or the moving television screen.

Anyway, to get this straight - you can't judge players if you're not at a game, but you can judge social and health workers if you have no connection with a particular case and haven't even read newspaper reports about that case?

Why the accusatory posts Bozza? I said the particular officials should be sacked in that instance (yes I have read online reports and watched the news - profuse apologies for mis reading your post) for not reporting not being able to see a baby for 3 months. That is basic.
It was confirmed that they were sacked.

What has that got to do with calling fans mugs? That is purely about opinions not happenings. You can watch a poor game and think the players need encouragement. That is an opinion. Other people may feel that booing will spur players on. That again is opinion. Calling people mugs for their opinions is not helpful.

 

[enigma]

Exactly. I know they are not the most gifted players, but we just wanted to see drive, motivation, urgency, spirit, bottle, passion. If a team shows that, everyone will applaud. You can only ask a team to give the try their hardest and they didn't today. Everyone around me was encouraging/supporting the team for the full 90 minutes but after the final whistle has gone and the game has finished I think people are fully entitled to express their discontent. Booing the team off after today's game would have been a perfectly acceptible and understandible reaction in my opinion.

I dont see there is anything wrong with that, particularly as you have made the distinction between booing AFTER the match and not during it.

 

[Bozza]

The players did battle for the 90 and that's why I clapped them, and I'll always do that if they work hard, regardless of how gutting the result is.

Is anyone questioning the gutted-ness of the result? We've all clapped when we've been gutted at a result. Generally when we're gutted, those on the pitch are gutted too.

This thread seems to be a disagreement on the amount of effort put in by those in the stripes. And if someone has travelled all the way to Crewe, determines that the players have not given it the proverbial 110% and decides not to clap at the end - then fair enough in my book.

What isn't fair enough is if that person withdrew their support during the match itself, we must all always do that.

 

[Porky]

I said a couple of weeks ago that if we didnt get an effective striker in before the Watford game we would be doomed to League One, and Famer would go down the tube.
I feel sorry for the likes of saltash seagull, who,as he says spend their hard earned money week after week to see mediocrity.
I believe the club sould be more open with their loyal supporters as to why they have done nothing while transfer and loans have been whirling around their heads, and the Front Office has done nothing.

 

[London Irish]

I said 'news reports' - could be newspapers, could also be the web, the radio or the moving television screen.

Anyway, to get this straight - you can't judge players if you're not at a game, but you can judge social and health workers if you have no connection with a particular case and haven't even read newspaper reports about that case?

Always a bad idea to make parallels between important events in the world and the magnificent triviality of football. It looks a bit crass.

 

[the full harris]

Always a bad idea to make parallels between important events in the world and the magnificent triviality of football. It looks a bit crass.

Could you be any more condescending? You can't possibly be like this in real life, you'd never get away with it!

 

[Bozza]

Why the accusatory posts Bozza? I said the particular officials should be sacked in that instance (yes I have read online reports and watched the news - profuse apologies for mis reading your post) for not reporting not being able to see a baby for 3 months. That is basic.
It was confirmed that they were sacked.

What has that got to do with calling fans mugs? That is purely about opinions not happenings. You can watch a poor game and think the players need encouragement. That is an opinion. Other people may feel that booing will spur players on. That again is opinion. Calling people mugs for their opinions is not helpful.

I read your post this morning and thought it somewhat bizarre that anyone as distanced as you or I, regardless of the revulsion we felt, could make a sweeping "sack 'em" reaction. That is to say making a judgement on something you really could not know enough about unless you were intimately involved.

But on this very thread you then say you can't judge players as you weren't at the game. It completely contrasts with your stance earlier stance.

It has nothing to do with calling fans mugs. Where do I comment on your stance on that? I'll answer for you - I haven't. I was only entering into discussion on your comments on not judging players without being at a game.

I'm happy to enter into the latter loads more if you want to. For example, you have often judged Leon Knight on his time at Huddersfield and Sheff. Wed. even though you weren't at the games. Views you seem to have based on fans of those teams and/or local media reports. But not personal experience.

 

[Bozza]

Always a bad idea to make parallels between important events in the world and the magnificent triviality of football. It looks a bit crass.

You think anyone gives a f*** what you consider to be either a good or a bad idea?

 

[London Irish]

This thread seems to be a disagreement on the amount of effort put in by those in the stripes. And if someone has travelled all the way to Crewe, determines that the players have not given it the proverbial 110% and decides not to clap at the end - then fair enough in my book.

Absolutely, people can do what they like.

I just happen to admire those fans that return the applause of the players when they come across to us like they did today, because they are telling the players they still believe in them given that we still have almost a quarter of the season left to play.

The players' morale has to be lifted, and my view is that will be better achieved if they know we are behind the team 100 per cent regardless of our frustration at the result or our views on the manager.

Other people can admire those fans that do nothing or boo the team if that's their wont.

 

[London Irish]

You think anyone gives a f*** what you consider to be either a good or a bad idea?

Yes, "anyone" is a low threshold to reach, so, definitely yes

When you are reduced to swearing Bozza, the high moral ground evaporates somewhat. Age old lesson

 

[Bozza]

Other people can admire those fans that do nothing or boo the team if that's their wont.

Very noble of you to allow such behaviour.

But just on the off chance that you're intimating that anyone has said they do [admire fans doing nothing and/or booing] - can you point me to where they said it please. Ta.

 

[Trigger]

Yes DARREN, don't swear on your own board. How dare you!

 

[Bozza]

Yes, "anyone" is a low threshold to reach, so, definitely yes

Good luck then.

When you are reduced to swearing Bozza, the high moral ground evaporates somewhat. Age old lesson

I'm often reduced to swearing and I am more than happy for you to believe you have planted the tricolour upon Mount Moral-High-Ground. Although I'm curious as to why I was in possession of it in the first place, as your post implies.

 

[Bozza]

Yes DARREN, don't swear on your own board. How dare you!

Evening sir - back anyone in the big one at Sandown this avvo?

 

[Trigger]

Evening sir - back anyone in the big one at Sandown this avvo?

Lacdoudal

You?

I'm predicting a profitable day on the 26th of March though.

 

[Bozza]

Yeah Lacdoudal too. Bloody French.

Currently wishing I was going to be at the Festival for the Gold Cup.

 

[Yorkie]

I read your post this morning and thought it somewhat bizarre that anyone as distanced as you or I, regardless of the revulsion we felt, could make a sweeping "sack 'em" reaction. That is to say making a judgement on something you really could not know enough about unless you were intimately involved.

But on this very thread you then say you can't judge players as you weren't at the game. It completely contrasts with your stance earlier stance.

It has nothing to do with calling fans mugs. Where do I comment on your stance on that? I'll answer for you - I haven't. I was only entering into discussion on your comments on not judging players without being at a game.

I'm happy to enter into the latter loads more if you want to. For example, you have often judged Leon Knight on his time at Huddersfield and Sheff. Wed. even though you weren't at the games. Views you seem to have based on fans of those teams and/or local media reports. But not personal experience.

Hudds and Sheff Wed. I did go to some of those games where Leon played. Remember I lived in Huddersfield? Remember I had friends who were Huddersfield season ticket holders? Remember I am married to a former Sheff Wed 'supporter' now converted to the Albion?

The point I was making before you felt you had the right to question my judgements, was that Tfh was calling other supporters mugs.
I enjoy going to football. I hate it when we lose. I will still go to football even if we get relegated but the one thing that would stop me going altogether is other supporters calliing me a mug if I applaud the players. That is up to me whether I applaud or not.

 

[Trigger]

Yeah Lacdoudal too. Bloody French.

Currently wishing I was going to be at the Festival for the Gold Cup.

Ah yes, the day Monkerhostin will finally get the big win he deserves!...

I've never been too hot on the jumps, can't wait for the flat season.