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Hampster Gull

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Dec 22, 2010
13,462
Soubry and Campbell acted in an absolutely disgraceful manner on that programme.

Dimbleby needs to be pensioned off. What a poor chair he is. He allows an uninterrupted two minute slanderous personal attack on McDonnell and then decides he has no right to reply.

The BBC is so biased against Labour it is shameful.

He gave him a right to reply, after a challenge from the nasty man himself, so whats the issue? Does abuse only work one way in the new labour party?
 








alfredmizen

Banned
Mar 11, 2015
6,342
John McDonnell can't keep using that "I was only joking" line as his get out of jail free card surely?

The financial crash was a good thing for undermining the country - I was joking.
We should kneecap Labour councillors opposed to the IRA - I was joking.
Chairman Mao quotes - I was joking.
Thatcher should be assassinated - I was joking.
Labour MPs are f*cking useless - I was joking.
Female Tory Minister should be lynched - I was joking.
I'm honest with you, I'm a Marxist - I was joking.

Even if you don't like Soubry or what she stands for, she was bloody well right about what she said. He is a nasty piece of work, he's an IRA-loving, Trotskyite bully who openly admits to using the Labour Party as a means to an end for himself. If, God forbid, his sort ever came to power then you would only have to look at Venezuela to see where this country would end up.
Yep, pretty much nails it.
 


Bry Nylon

Test your smoke alarm
Helpful Moderator
Jul 21, 2003
19,901
Playing snooker
God forbid, if his sort [John McDonnell] ever came to power then you would only have to look at Venezuela to see where this country would end up.

So on balance, warmer summers then :cool:
 




Hastings gull

Well-known member
Nov 23, 2013
4,635
I agree with this, McDonnell is obviously intelligent, robust and capable of a certain style of leadership/management. People don't, however, like him in the way that they like Jeremy Corbyn and that is a significant shortcoming in a politician seeking election.
Do they? Really?
 


Soulman

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Oct 22, 2012
10,966
Sompting
I agree with this, McDonnell is obviously intelligent, robust and capable of a certain style of leadership/management. People don't, however, like him in the way that they like Jeremy Corbyn and that is a significant shortcoming in a politician seeking election.

This is tongue in cheek right?......... nearly got me.
 


Raleigh Chopper

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Sep 1, 2011
12,054
Plymouth
Was his quote that. Campbell and Blair cost 5 mill votes not personal ? and his quote that they are the reason why labour list the last election ?

Except the Scotch lassie they all put their foot in it one way or another and you are right, I'm sticking up for none of them, but his quote was volleyed back at Campbell after a normal question was turned into a personal attack and Soubry joined in,for the sake of the programme and politics in general Dimbleby should have stopped it and told them to answer the question but he failed to do so.
 












spring hall convert

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Nov 3, 2009
9,608
Brighton
Labour MPs are f*cking useless - I was joking..

He should have stuck by this one. This leadership challenge has heaped calamity on calamity. Despite all the gerrymandering it is going to result in an increased mandate for Corbyn, which I'm guessing wasn't the intended result.

I find it interesting that the focus of the personal attacks have now shifted away from Corbyn a touch and shifted to Milne, McDonnell and Momentum. Easier targets I guess.
 


Soulman

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Oct 22, 2012
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Sompting
He should have stuck by this one. This leadership challenge has heaped calamity on calamity. Despite all the gerrymandering it is going to result in an increased mandate for Corbyn, which I'm guessing wasn't the intended result.

I find it interesting that the focus of the personal attacks have now shifted away from Corbyn a touch

Probably shifted away because Corbyn has become the laughing stock and to keep finding fault is easy and on a weekly basis. His second in command is a nasty piece of work and those below him and mentioned are very weak as well.
 


spring hall convert

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Nov 3, 2009
9,608
Brighton
Probably shifted away because Corbyn has become the laughing stock and to keep finding fault is easy and on a weekly basis. His second in command is a nasty piece of work and those below him and mentioned are very weak as well.

A laughing stock who is still going to be leader of the Labour Party though. All that nauseating bollocks from most of the PLP last week about how much better Corbyn was at PMQ's was obviously related to this. Perhaps they might actually try and support him this time but I strongly doubt it.
 




Albion my Albion

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Feb 6, 2016
18,152
Indiana, USA
I question the time it takes to go through these sessions and if they are productive or just a way for politicians to release some anger at their opponents.
 


Buzzer

Languidly Clinical
Oct 1, 2006
26,121
He should have stuck by this one. This leadership challenge has heaped calamity on calamity. Despite all the gerrymandering it is going to result in an increased mandate for Corbyn, which I'm guessing wasn't the intended result.

I find it interesting that the focus of the personal attacks have now shifted away from Corbyn a touch and shifted to Milne, McDonnell and Momentum. Easier targets I guess.

I reckon this idea that Corbyn gets more than his share of personal abuse overplayed. Just look at how Cameron or Boris Johnson have been portrayed and attacked over the last 8 years by sections of the Press and especially on social media. All sides do it and very few politicians have escaped lightly.

I do think you are right though that the focus will now shift to Milne, Lansman, Momentum and McDonnell and rightly so. Milne is an old school Stalinist, McDonnell a Marxist and Lansman is at the very least a hard-left socialist and all 3 would want to see the UK's loosely capitalist economy replaced with a command economy.
 


spring hall convert

Well-known member
Nov 3, 2009
9,608
Brighton
I reckon this idea that Corbyn gets more than his share of personal abuse overplayed. Just look at how Cameron or Boris Johnson have been portrayed and attacked over the last 8 years by sections of the Press and especially on social media. All sides do it and very few politicians have escaped lightly.

I don't doubt that all politicians get personal attacks but I respectfully disagree that the frequency and vehemence of them on Corbyn isn't greater than any other mainstream political figure including even Nigel 'completely racist poster' Farage.

The focus will shift because it hasn't really worked. Which in itself I think is pretty amazing. Virtually all establishment organisations have been taking daily pot shots at him for well over a year now and he's still here. He certainly doesn't want for a thick skin.

Anyway there's a long dull ranty thread about all this elsewhere isn't there.
 
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JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
I reckon this idea that Corbyn gets more than his share of personal abuse overplayed. Just look at how Cameron or Boris Johnson have been portrayed and attacked over the last 8 years by sections of the Press and especially on social media. All sides do it and very few politicians have escaped lightly.

I do think you are right though that the focus will now shift to Milne, Lansman, Momentum and McDonnell and rightly so. Milne is an old school Stalinist, McDonnell a Marxist and Lansman is at the very least a hard-left socialist and all 3 would want to see the UK's loosely capitalist economy replaced with a command economy.

With bells on. Corbyn and his fellow travellers have in reality deserved all he/they get. Stick a red star on your t shirt declare yourself a revolutionary marxist = trendy kudos whereas in reality any right minded person would consider it as hideous as support for the swastika/fascism. #leftydoublestandards
 








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