Renewable energy - unless you want to hang a round for a few million years coal can hardly be classed as renewable. If magic beans can produce power then fine but otherwise I would suggest wind, water and solar methods of creating energy.
Public service strike action and Bob Crow.
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Renewable energy - unless you want to hang a round for a few million years coal can hardly be classed as renewable. If magic beans can produce power then fine but otherwise I would suggest wind, water and solar methods of creating energy.
Norman Baker suck my lozenge
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Norman Baker suck my lozenge
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get a job in the public sector then if you're jealous.TSLR. Not really,just feel this board is a good way to gauge opinions. I work in the private sector & are cheesed off with what i see of the Public sector. I know i am not alone.
The Cardinal
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TSLR. Not really,just feel this board is a good way to gauge opinions. I work in the private sector & are cheesed off with what i see of the Public sector. I know i am not alone.
Yeah, right. It was the greed and incompetence of street cleaners, teachers, nurses and firefighters that caused an international banking/financial crisis was n't it?
We can all turn that round - working in IT in the Private Sector I can hardly be blamed for it either. Nor can bank cashiers or even high street branch managers, or supermarket employees, or footballers, or bank secretaries etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc
The public sector need to take the pain in exactly the same way as those of us in the private sector who happen not to be highly paid bankers.
It can be a personal crisis for anyone when they lose their job and I feel for them.However,the Public Sector have had it good for quite a long time now and under the previous Government,the sector ballooned and is quite unaffordable.
I am now retired and unlike the Public Sector,my pension is dependent on the fortunes of the stockmarket(ha ha,that's a laugh!). I always worked in the private sector and during my career,I was made redundant 5 times.
Its not good but it happens.
Nope and it wasn't mine either and I work in the private sector and have seen pay freezes and reductions, redundancies and job cuts, as everyone else pretty much in the private sector has since probably Autumn 2008.
It's time to join the real world trade union leaders.
Norman Baker suck my lozenge
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Or it's time to join a trade union private sector workers!
don't drag people down,look up.
Or it's time to join a trade union private sector workers!
don't drag people down,look up.
You have got to be joking, what so that the trade union leader can play his own political games while all the time you his member suffer, by him taking you out on strike and losing the salary for that day(s) work that you need to pay for your house and family. Do me a favour.
The Cardinal
Bishop of Withdean
Or it's time to join a trade union private sector workers!
don't drag people down,look up.
Damn right. The Con Dems will make ordinary people, in both the private and public sector, apy for the crisis while featherbedding the c*nts who caused it.
Government cut backs combined with VAT rises are expected to cost around about 600,000 public sector and 700,000 private sector jobs. time to get off our knees.
Do you just make these figures up as you go along, cut backs of 700,000 private sector jobs, where does that come from? Do you not realise that has happened already, the private sector (and that means the 99% whom don't work for banks) has been feeling the pain for nearly two years now (since Autumn 2008).
Norman Baker suck my lozenge
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If you want to be bullied and threatened by your employer that's up to you, I will never be intimidated by some shyster with no knowledge of the job telling me that I must pull my belt in.I have worked damn hard for my pay and conditions,suggest you do the same and stop trying to drag others down with you,look up,don't be told that you're not good enough, aspire,don't be jealous.
Bullied and threatened by my employers, don't make me laugh. They don't want to, nor take pleasure in making people redundant and most people know that but unlike you and Bob Crow they live in the real world. Anyone in the private sector can see this because we have friends/relations that they are having job cuts/pay freezes/redundancies etc. and have done so since Autumn 2008. That's the way it is right now, one day it will be milk and honey again but just now it is not.
What a load of utter class warfare tripe you spout did you study politics at school/university or something? so tell me how do your bosses bully you, intimidate you etc. etc. Holidays entitlement down to 25 days a year? Cigarette breaks been cut to 15 minutes at a time. Join the real world we live in 2010 not 1930, a time when workers really were exploited and bullied a time when unions really were needed. In this modern day and age employment laws cover pretty much every need for an employee and unions are a throw back to a long gone age.
You also have no idea what I do. I know that I do pretty well in the private sector thanks very much and I too have also worked hard paying for courses (out of my own money) and passing exams in my chosen profession and I have no jealousy of anyone that works in the public sector, nor aspiration to join it.
Ex-Staffs Gull
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Just talking about the 'public sector' is wrong. Nurses, Doctors, Soldiers, Police, Firefighters, Ambulance drivers, paramedics, teachers, Health and safety officers are all public sector, are they over paid and underworked?
There is also a lot of overpaid and under worked individuals hiding in very very large public sector entities. Equally there are many over paid and underworked people in the private sector.
The issue for me is that we cannot afford across the board pay rises (or rather a freeze will save billions of pounds. It will be the unions un-williness to accept pay freezes that will lead to redundancies and selling off of services (which we will all pay for in the long run) IMO as pay freeze and a certain level of recruitment freezing would give the government more flexibility in how they go about there cuts.
There is also a lot of overpaid and under worked individuals hiding in very very large public sector entities. Equally there are many over paid and underworked people in the private sector.
The issue for me is that we cannot afford across the board pay rises (or rather a freeze will save billions of pounds. It will be the unions un-williness to accept pay freezes that will lead to redundancies and selling off of services (which we will all pay for in the long run) IMO as pay freeze and a certain level of recruitment freezing would give the government more flexibility in how they go about there cuts.
TSLR. Not really,just feel this board is a good way to gauge opinions. I work in the private sector & are cheesed off with what i see of the Public sector. I know i am not alone.
Oh i'm with the private sector, public sector blah blah, moan moan moan.
Go out and enjoy life instead of getting cheesed off with things beyond your control. You'll live a happier, longer life if you don't worry for these things.
Some of them yes!But to be fair,it is no secret that there are an awful lot of non jobs that have been created in the P.S. by the previous Government and there is an incredible amount of waste and inefficiency in many parts of the P.S.that should be sorted....including the NHS.
Norman Baker suck my lozenge
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OOOOOHHHHHHH!
Knocky noodles.
Great riposte, counter responding to all my points.
Truth hurt does it?
Albion Dan
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Bob Crow is such the finest leader you'd want to stand behind now isn't he...
He's done very very well for Tube Drivers who now get a very healthy pay packet.
Tesco in Disguise
Where do we go from here?
yeah! if it doesn't affect you PERSONALLY why give a shit?