[Travel] Potential Speeding Ban

[Mellotron]

Never ceases to amaze me how being caught speeding illicits so much sympathy from so many. So much so in fact, that's it's invariably the fault of the 'sneaky' people who caught you in the act.

Speeding really has been normalised, hasn't it.

No surprises really I suppose, in a car centric culture.

I’m bang to rights. I’m not trying to make out the system is sneaky or anything like that.

The last 2-3 year have been the hardest of my life by some distance and that’s definitely a factor. I haven’t suddenly turned into a speeder randomly for no reason after 15+ years driving.

But as ol Potter would say, it is what it is.

 

[birthofanorange]

How can a ban be an effective deterrent for breaking the law when all you have to do is plead exceptional circumstances because you use a car a lot and they agree not to ban you?!

Probably a. Unpopular opinion but they should just say tough luck, you were told the consequences when you were given your license and if you need to drive for work then that should be a reason for you to be more careful not a reason why other road users should have to accept that more selfish poor drivers are allowed to use the road without the same consequences as everyone else

Harsh, although a valid point. However, in many types of cases that are not car-related, mitigation and sentencing are varied. It's really not as cut and dried as you imply, or wish it to be.
Edit: As an aside, it's by no means sure that leniency will be shown, and I would guess that in the vast majority of cases it wouldn't be.
That said, it doesn't mean that it should never be shown.

 

[Blue&WhiteSea]

Harsh, although a valid point. However, in many types of cases that are not car-related, mitigation and sentencing are varied. It's really not as cut and dried as you imply, or wish it to be.

You are obviously correct it isn't as simple as I make out but what would be the fun in being a keyboard warrior if we were all reasonable and thought about all the possibilities eh?!

 

[1066familyman]

How can a ban be an effective deterrent for breaking the law when all you have to do is plead exceptional circumstances because you use a car a lot and they agree not to ban you?!

Probably a. Unpopular opinion but they should just say tough luck, you were told the consequences when you were given your license and if you need to drive for work then that should be a reason for you to be more careful not a reason why other road users should have to accept that more selfish poor drivers are allowed to use the road without the same consequences as everyone else

Because of the economy, stupid.

 

[Kosh]

If you avoid a ban… try listening to really chilled out music when driving, the days of me listening to Stormbringer and trying to drive sensibly in a 20 zone are over *


*not how I got my points btw.

 

[birthofanorange]

If you avoid a ban… try listening to really chilled out music when driving, the days of me listening to Stormbringer and trying to drive sensibly in a 20 zone are over *


*not how I got my points btw.

Glad to know that you stick to Motorhead these days....assuming it's their acoustic stuff.

 

[Normal Rob]

If you avoid a ban… try listening to really chilled out music when driving, the days of me listening to Stormbringer and trying to drive sensibly in a 20 zone are over *


*not how I got my points btw.

I know it's obvious but 2nd for 20, 3rd for 30 etc also works (for most petrol, manual cars).
So you don't forget just try to work out how much extra it might be costing you in fuel...

 

[birthofanorange]

The 20 mph limit does cause problems for most drivers, imo. Given that your main focus should be the road ahead and anticipating potential hazards, a very slight application of pressure can easily result in a speed of 25 mph....enough to elicit a speeding offence.

I drive for a living, and to be constantly staring at the speedo to ensure I stay within that 5 mph margin, genuinely reduces my awareness of the changing situations around me.

I fully consider that 20 mph (or even less) is entirely appropriate around schools, but a blanket 20 mph limit has one of two effects:

1. It's not adhered to.

2. If it is, then too much of the driver's attention is taken by constantly checking.

This is just my opinion, based as a car driver of nearly 45 years, and as a professional driver of nearly 30 years.

 

[The Optimist]

To clarify, I really am not a boy racer, just incredibly stressed and sleep deprived.

I’m not sure I’d offer sleep deprived in mitigation if I was you.

 

[birthofanorange]

I’m not sure I’d offer sleep deprived in mitigation if I was you.

Indeed - think sleep apnoea.....cheerio license.

 

[Wealden Seagull]

Yes, courts or awarness courses, one of the things they will home in on is why did you speed and whatever the answer is the next question will be what are you going to do to resolve this in the future?

So how are you going to improve your sleep and stress levels?

 

[amexer]

Fully appreciate we should all keep to speed limits but if you drtvr a lot it is very hard and easy to get caught. and many sped cameras are there to raise revenue.
Most average speed areas are put in because of road maintenance When I travel up north I leave at 3-30/4am and they are a pain when no traffic about and should be turned of until workers arrive.
Last ticket I got was on my way to Dover at 5am on a speed restriction to 50 because of maintenance Madness.

 

[queens park pete]

How can a ban be an effective deterrent for breaking the law when all you have to do is plead exceptional circumstances because you use a car a lot and they agree not to ban you?!

Probably a. Unpopular opinion but they should just say tough luck, you were told the consequences when you were given your license and if you need to drive for work then that should be a reason for you to be more careful not a reason why other road users should have to accept that more selfish poor drivers are allowed to use the road without the same consequences as everyone else

If you saw what a speeding "professional driver" did to a family member on a straight road in clear conditions you wouldn't be worrying about a selfish reckless person or two losing their jobs. Plenty more people prepared to drive within the law will be able take their job.

 

[Mellotron]

Yes, courts or awarness courses, one of the things they will home in on is why did you speed and whatever the answer is the next question will be what are you going to do to resolve this in the future?

So how are you going to improve your sleep and stress levels?

Change career, which I’ve started on the road to.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Indeed - think sleep apnoea.....cheerio license.

Indeed. As a sufferer of said condition I had to not drive until I got treatment - a machine I have to use when I'm asleep. Thankfully my period of not driving was very minimal.

 

[Brian Munich]

9 - out atm but will confirm - all 4 instances have been manned equipment (ie people catching you out).

I will check the speed and post, I have a feeling it was doing around 50 on a stretch of motorway that was temporarily dropped to 40 or something similar.

Girlfriend’s dad used to be a magistrate. He saw quite a few of these points accumulation cases and never gave a ban out. Doesn’t sound like your latest one is a piss take, so I reckon you’ll be fine if you promise to be reallly good.

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

Fully appreciate we should all keep to speed limits but if you drtvr a lot it is very hard and easy to get caught. and many sped cameras are there to raise revenue.
Most average speed areas are put in because of road maintenance When I travel up north I leave at 3-30/4am and they are a pain when no traffic about and should be turned of until workers arrive.
Last ticket I got was on my way to Dover at 5am on a speed restriction to 50 because of maintenance Madness.

Sorry but up to 3 years ago I did 50000 miles a year for a number of years. Been driving since 17 now 57, never been caught, never been stopped. Got a parking ticket is Wisbech that is it!!

 

[birthofanorange]

Sorry but up to 3 years ago I did 50000 miles a year for a number of years. Been driving since 17 now 57, never been caught, never been stopped. Got a parking ticket is Wisbech that is it!!

Is that the same as saying that you've never, ever broken a speed limit, or just that you've never been caught?

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

Is that the same as saying that you've never, ever broken a speed limit, or just that you've never been caught?

Speed all the time but consider myself a little brighter than many and not get caught. Know where the cameras are know where mobile cameras are likely. Don't take the piss when there's average speed cameras, it really isn't hard.

 

[birthofanorange]

Speed all the time but consider myself a little brighter than many and not get caught. Know where the cameras are know where mobile cameras are likely. Don't take the piss when there's average speed cameras, it really isn't hard.

Pretty much the same as everyone, then, but you've been lucky.
Not really sure of the point you're making, other than you break the Law all the time and have avoided a fine/points/prosecution.