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Portsmouth Relegated...
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Barrel of Fun
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Excellent news. 
ben andrews' girlfriend
Nurse Laura
Why is it 9 points? Was thinking this earlier!!!
philsussex
New member
They had administration granted? I'm surprised.
Thought it'd be straight to winding up for them.
Thought it'd be straight to winding up for them.
surrey jim
Not in Surrey
Premiership is 9 , Football league issue a 10 point penalty. Just diffrent governing bodies
philsussex
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Prem rules. SOmething about them playing less games in a season
Gordon the Gopher
Active member
Because there are less teams in the premiership, hence 10 points in the FL
Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Well, they're not OFFICIALLY relegated yet. They'll be on 7 points, 17 from safety with 12 games to play.
- Jul 7, 2003
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And by way of a double bonus, assuming they do get relegated, they will probably be deducted 20 points at the start of next season because they are apparently highly unlikely to have a CVA in place, due to Football League rules about paying off creditors.
BRILLIANT
BRILLIANT
Chortle
clapham_gull
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- Aug 20, 2003
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Which seems a bizarre way of coming up with the figure.
Imagine if Portsmouth stay up by one point in the championship against another team who have been deducted 10.
Da Man Clay
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- Dec 16, 2004
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Eh?
The 9 point deduction is for this year. Doesn't affect the championship at all
clapham_gull
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- Aug 20, 2003
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If Portsmouth get relegated and the nine point deduction wouldn't have made any difference I presume it gets rolled over to the next season as it does in the football league.
( I was asking on here the other day if the "roll over" happens in the Premiership, does anyone now ? )
They will start the Championship on -9 points. However, if another Championship teams goes into admininstration next season they will have a 10 point deduction.
Da Man Clay
T'Blades
- Dec 16, 2004
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Think that's only the case if you go into admin over the cut off date which is in March sometime.
Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Surely once they're relegated they are in the clutches of the Football League, and will therefore be subject to their 10 point deduction ?
Whitterz
Mmmmm? Marvellous
Shame because they really looked like staying up too. Must be a terrible shock to them to be contemplating playing in the Championship.
diddums, do them good to go down a peg or two.
clapham_gull
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- Aug 20, 2003
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Ah yes, March 26th !
Administration prior to that date ensure points are only deducted this season.
Is that the case in the Premiership ?
- Jul 7, 2003
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This is what the Guardian had to say a couple of days ago regarding Pompey's fate next season. I don't know what CVAs are all about, I must say, but they seem to be suggesting that PFC are unlikely to have one in place.
Entering administration will result in an automatic nine-point penalty from the Premier League, leaving Portsmouth 17 points adrift of safety. But the punishment from the Football League next *season is likely to be far harsher.
Portsmouth would only avoid a *further points deduction from the Football League if the administrator can reach a company voluntary arrangement, a deal with creditors to accept only a proportion of the club's debts.
That will be extremely hard to achieve, however, because league rules state that football creditors must be paid in full and Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs will insist on the same. Portsmouth must find at least £22m to settle with them alone. Some £10m is outstanding in unpaid transfer fees, including for their former midfielder Sulley Muntari, signed from Udinese and now with Internazionale, and at least £12.1m is owed to HMRC.
There have been four previous cases of Football League clubs failing to reach CVAs, involving Leeds United, *Rotherham, Bournemouth and Luton Town, and they were handed penalties of 15, 17, 17 and 20 points respectively.
Entering administration will result in an automatic nine-point penalty from the Premier League, leaving Portsmouth 17 points adrift of safety. But the punishment from the Football League next *season is likely to be far harsher.
Portsmouth would only avoid a *further points deduction from the Football League if the administrator can reach a company voluntary arrangement, a deal with creditors to accept only a proportion of the club's debts.
That will be extremely hard to achieve, however, because league rules state that football creditors must be paid in full and Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs will insist on the same. Portsmouth must find at least £22m to settle with them alone. Some £10m is outstanding in unpaid transfer fees, including for their former midfielder Sulley Muntari, signed from Udinese and now with Internazionale, and at least £12.1m is owed to HMRC.
There have been four previous cases of Football League clubs failing to reach CVAs, involving Leeds United, *Rotherham, Bournemouth and Luton Town, and they were handed penalties of 15, 17, 17 and 20 points respectively.