poor old foxes!

[Curious Orange]

Whilst the majority of the population are against fox hunting they would oppose suggestions that Police resources could potentially be diverted away from crimes like burglary to enforce the ban.

I think you'll find that the majority of people don't give a monkeys either way.

BBC report

The whole thing was a misuse of parliamentary time in my opinion.

 

[METALMICKY]

I am. Put this nastly little past-time into the history books alongside bear baiting. Just like Tony Blair has done, to his credit.

These scare stories of mass protests up and down ye fine olde rurall Englande is likely to be bollocks in a week or two's time, if at all.

That doesn't answer my query. I too am vehmently anti hunt but if a key part of the equation relates to where law & order resources are focussed average joe will want the Police to prioritise.

 

[Starry]

I thought you worked for a football club, not nature's nazis.

I do work for a football club. That doesn't stop me keeping a livery yard.

 

[CHAPPERS]

Yes, they are bred for hunting.

Well, stop breeding them then, problem solved.

 

[Starry]

Well, stop breeding them then, problem solved.

But it's not illegal to chase them acrross the countryside? To drive foxes out, to send a terrier down etc. I can't speak for other hunts but here life is countuing as normal. Just the fox will be shot first then 'ripped apart'. Rather than killed by hounds alone.

 

[Uncle Buck]

But it's not illegal to chase them acrross the countryside? To drive foxes out, to send a terrier down etc. I can't speak for other hunts but here life is countuing as normal. Just the fox will be shot first then 'ripped apart'. Rather than killed by hounds alone.

How about the farmers paid for decent deterents, like oh fences to keep the foxes out rather than letting hounds tear the fox apart and then blaming everything on the Government when they do not get their way?

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

blimey starry - you are a welcome addition to NSC. It is a rich tapestry here.

 

[Starry]

How about the farmers paid for decent deterents, like oh fences to keep the foxes out rather than letting hounds tear the fox apart and then blaming everything on the Government when they do not get their way?

I don't know. I am not a farmer.

.

 

[tedebear]

I still can't get past the fact that people ride out on horseback to follow a pack of hounds, over whatever land they wish, whose sole purpose is to destroy a fox by tearing it apart - doesn't make sense to me that this is "normal" "sane" thinking?

 

[Uncle Buck]

I don't know. I am not a farmer.

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I just find the argument that hunting is a good way of culling the foxes crap. They hardly ever kill them and there are not as many hunts as foxes, so it is not effective.

There are more humane ways of controlling the vermin.

As for the inbred toff's complaining about loss of jobs etc, like they give a toss what happens to the serf's that work on their land. All they want to do is dress up in a uniform, drink claret and kill something. If that is what they want their take the Queen's shilling, go to Sandhurst and then we can send them to Iraq, Kabul or Belfast. They get the uniform, can slap each others back's in the mess, they get a gun and might do something useful with their priveledged lives.

 

[readingstockport]

How about the farmers paid for decent deterents, like oh fences to keep the foxes out rather than letting hounds tear the fox apart and then blaming everything on the Government when they do not get their way?

Tell you what, they don't like my government telling them what they can and cannot do with regard to killing animals for fun then they can f*** off and do without my taxes either.

 

[Gritt23]

Re: Re: poor old foxes!

I totally agree with what the "old codger" said. Hunts currently control the fox population, and encourage people to allow some foxes to survive for sporting purposes. IF the ban actually works, farmers will simply wipe-out the foxes on their land as they are vermin.

Sorry, but I never buy the argument about it controlling numbers because ....

1. You'll also hear the pro-hunt lot saying how "it's all a bit of fun, and a lot of the time the fox gets away anyway."

2. I do about 30k miles a year, and I barely go a day without passing half a dozen road kills, often foxes. IMHO if you want to control numbers, you should just drop the tax on fuel, so people drive more.

 

[Uncle Buck]

Tell you what, they don't like my government telling them what they can and cannot do with regard to killing animals for fun then they can f*** off and do without my taxes either.

Now that would just not be fair. They have had such a raw deal, like forgetting to check for foot and mouth and the whole world is against nature's nazis.

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

I still can't get past the fact that people ride out on horseback to follow a pack of hounds, over whatever land they wish, whose sole purpose is to destroy a fox by tearing it apart - doesn't make sense to me that this is "normal" "sane" thinking?

It helps me to put it into perspective if you think of someone pitching it as an idea for a new sport - or indeed pest control.

You can almost hear the chuckling, however it could all sound almost plausible until you get to the "and then the dogs tear the fox limb from limb".

 

[tedebear]

It helps me to put it into perspective if you think of someone pitching it as an idea for a new sport - or indeed pest control.

You can almost hear the chuckling, however it could all sound almost plausible until you get to the "and then the dogs tear the fox limb from limb".

so whay can't they just skip the bit where the fox gets torn apart??

plant dead chickens or something across the fields and get the dogs to chase the scent of those??

 

[caz99]

I just find the argument that hunting is a good way of culling the foxes crap. They hardly ever kill them and there are not as many hunts as foxes, so it is not effective.

There are more humane ways of controlling the vermin.

As for the inbred toff's complaining about loss of jobs etc, like they give a toss what happens to the serf's that work on their land. All they want to do is dress up in a uniform, drink claret and kill something. If that is what they want their take the Queen's shilling, go to Sandhurst and then we can send them to Iraq, Kabul or Belfast. They get the uniform, can slap each others back's in the mess, they get a gun and might do something useful with their priveledged lives.

 

[Schrödinger's Toad]

A barbaric, sadistic, bloodthirsty chase all done in the name of some scum's pleasure. About bloody time it was banned, I just hope the police are strong enough to act if and when this law is broken.

 

[rool]

There are always going to be arguments for and against this whole thing but I just wish the hunt supporters wouldn't keep insulting our intelligence by saying they are providing an important service by controlling the number of foxes.

Just tell it like it is that it is a sport and hobby that you enjoy. I am sure there are more efficient and humane ways of killing one fox.

 

[Strike]

I think you'll find that the majority of people don't give a monkeys either way.

BBC report

The whole thing was a misuse of parliamentary time in my opinion.

I will second that.

 

[chip]

I expect the law to be as well inforced as speeding and mobile telephones while driving. I.e. not at all or in very specific locations.

UB: you seem to have as much understanding of the countryside as a labour politician - none. I think you are playing with semantics when you use the word humane as in "There are more humane ways of controlling the vermin". As they are vermin, you can poison them, string them up by their testicles or whatever you like to kill them. You other brilliant idea about fences only underlines your complete missunderstanding of this subject. Stick to the old adage and say nothing and be thought a fool rather than confirming that you are.