Pietersen ready for the ashes?
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Parson Henry
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Uncle Buck said:
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There is a brilliant keeper called (any fast medium bowler you would care to name) he can keep wicket.
Parson Henry
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For those who regularly watch Sussex....
How far away are Matty Prior and Tim Ambrose from selection?
How far away are Matty Prior and Tim Ambrose from selection?
Dr Breakfast
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Essentially happy with that but I get the feeling Butcher is in line for a place
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Perry Milkins said:
Not sure Ambrose is qualified and Prior's keeping has the same flaws as Gerriant Jones.
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ChapmansThe Saviour said:
Squad was;
England A squad: Ian Bell (Warks; Capt), Rikki Clarke (Surrey), Richard Dawson (Yorks), Paul Franks (Notts), Alex Gidman (Gloucs), David Harrison (Glam), Jon Lewis (Gloucs), Sajid Mahmood (Lancs), Kevin Pietersen (Hants), Michael Powell (Glam), Matthew Prior (Sussex), Owais Shah (Middx), Vikram Solanki (Worcs), Graeme Swann (Notts)
Looking at that Prior is the keeper.
Uncle Buck
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ChapmansThe Saviour said:
Not much, getting splinters from sitting around and generally wondering what he has to do, whilst a wicket keeper of village standard takes his place in the England side.
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I'd look to start the 1st Test vs. Australia with the following batting line-up:
1. Trescothick
2. Strauss
3. Vaughan
4. Thorpe
5. Pietersen
6. Flintoff
7. G Jones
8. Giles
9. S Jones
10.Hoggard
11.Harmison.
1. Trescothick
2. Strauss
3. Vaughan
4. Thorpe
5. Pietersen
6. Flintoff
7. G Jones
8. Giles
9. S Jones
10.Hoggard
11.Harmison.
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What is the difference between a team and a batting line-up?
Uncle Buck
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Pavilionaire said:
I think that is the likely side, would like to see a proper wicket keeper in there, rather than a batsman who can keep a bit, if we are going down that line, why is Banger not given the gloves (as he does for Somerset in one day games) and then get a better batter than Jones in?
Also I still think it looks a tad unbalanced, not sure with Vaughan at 3, think you need a grafter like Butcher in there.
I do think Vaughan's best has been when he has been at the top of the order and in the last Ashes Series, the Aussies really did not know how to deal with him there.
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If you post the team people would ask where would you bat Vaughan, Pietersen etc - hence the phrase "batting line-up".
Did I waste my time?
Did I waste my time?
Storer68
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Pavilionaire said:
Can't have the tail starting at 6 tho.
Thats the trouble iwth Pietesen - he unbalances the side, Asking flintoff to bat at 6 is a big ask and if it doesn't work then the tail wil get swept away very quickly
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Storer68 said:
Hasn't Flintoff been batting at 6 as we've swept aside the Windies (twice), New Zealand and South Africa??
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Ive followed KP throughout his career and im convinced he should be in the England squad.
He is a very aggressive player and can sometimes suffer from Hick-like over zealous shotplay. However, his career stats are unquestionable and he has the ability to win the game for his side in a matter of overs.
Maybe more importantly though he is an arrogant, cocky, over aggressive little shit who hates losing and thrives on destroying better known players reputations. In short he's a winner and for this alone he deserves a place in the Ashes squad.
(ps. he is an outstanding fielder and can bowl a bit too)
He is a very aggressive player and can sometimes suffer from Hick-like over zealous shotplay. However, his career stats are unquestionable and he has the ability to win the game for his side in a matter of overs.
Maybe more importantly though he is an arrogant, cocky, over aggressive little shit who hates losing and thrives on destroying better known players reputations. In short he's a winner and for this alone he deserves a place in the Ashes squad.
(ps. he is an outstanding fielder and can bowl a bit too)
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It's ridiculous to suggest Flintoff is the start of the tail - he's a genuine world-class all-rounder with 5 test centuries, an average comfortably in the 30s, and a recent test average over the last couple of years in the 40s.
Botham used to bat 6 when England were a class side, and his test average was about the same as Flintoff's is now.
One of the reasons we must find a place for Pietersen is that he can score quickly, and that means setting fields and run chase targets is risky for the opposition.
Having the likes of Flintoff and Pietersen in the team will make the Aussies think twice about setting generous declaration totals, and this may force them to go for more shots in order to rack up enough runs sufficiently quickly. Therefore, we need 4 quality pacemen plus Giles to take advantage.
Botham used to bat 6 when England were a class side, and his test average was about the same as Flintoff's is now.
One of the reasons we must find a place for Pietersen is that he can score quickly, and that means setting fields and run chase targets is risky for the opposition.
Having the likes of Flintoff and Pietersen in the team will make the Aussies think twice about setting generous declaration totals, and this may force them to go for more shots in order to rack up enough runs sufficiently quickly. Therefore, we need 4 quality pacemen plus Giles to take advantage.