[Palace] Phantom Sh*tter

[Danny-Boy]

Relations between the two clubs must now be at an all-time low, and I fear what will happen off the pitch the next time the clubs play each other.

Apparently, relations between the respective boards were cordial. I doubt that they are now.

Sadly the sh*t might now hit the fans, rather than the fan...

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I said 1 player mentioned it.

Of course they all knew afterwards.

They did not know on the night of the game.

Your club chose to keep quiet whilst we had an enquiry into our security, and several employees were under suspicion. The outside world believed that a Brighton employee was the culprit, Gus has had to tolerate abuse recently from your fans, and yet your club still kept quiet.
I call that lies and deceit, which is not exactly a new concept to Palace.

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

Once again, for the hard of thinking:

The driver was with the Palace kit man, presumably helping him unload the kit from the coach. He got caught short in the dressing room, shat everywhere, tried to clear it up but didn't make a very good job of it, so he just left it, and the door was locked. Coach driver - aware. Palace kit man - aware. Palace players soon after - aware. Palace club hierarchy soon after - aware.

Media shitstorm ensues. Much embarrassment and fallout heaped on BHA. BHA issue an immediate apology, launch an internal investigation, staff are suspended, and ANOTHER official apology is issued to Palace, which is accepted by Disney and Browett, et-al.

And all the time this was going off, they knew. The KNEW it was not an employee of BHA who was the culprit. THAT is why it is upsetting so many now. Utterly rancid, dispicable behaviour by your club.

Get it now ?

You've got more chance of Tony Blair holding his hand up and admitting he made a mistake than a Nigel saying their club should apologise as the correct and proper action

 

[Brian Fantana]

Well, I'm sure we'll meet in a cup at some point in the next few years to find out.

Don't you worry, you'll be back down here before you know it.

 

[BobbySmith]

Relations between the two clubs must now be at an all-time low, and I fear what will happen off the pitch the next time the clubs play each other.

Apparently, relations between the respective boards were cordial. I doubt that they are now.

I hope there is no issues between the fans, its not their fault. This is really between the two clubs at Board level to sort out, not the fans.

 

[Brian Fantana]

Once again, for the hard of thinking:

The driver was with the Palace kit man, presumably helping him unload the kit from the coach. He got caught short in the dressing room, shat everywhere, tried to clear it up but didn't make a very good job of it, so he just left it, and the door was locked. Coach driver - aware. Palace kit man - aware. Palace players soon after - aware. Palace club hierarchy soon after - aware.

Media shitstorm ensues. Much embarrassment and fallout heaped on BHA. BHA issue an immediate apology, launch an internal investigation, staff are suspended, and ANOTHER official apology is issued to Palace, which is accepted by Disney and Browett, et-al.

And all the time this was going off, they knew. The KNEW it was not an employee of BHA who was the culprit. THAT is why it is upsetting so many now. Utterly rancid, dispicable behaviour by your club.

Get it now ?

This.

It's not particularly hard to understand. It's something that goes beyond a football match or the rivlary in general - it is basic commom human decency; something which is clearly in short supply at Selhurst Park.

 

[SDG]

There you go. You have just admitted that the Palace camp knew the truth soon after the game, yet you cannot bring yourself to concede that your club acted despicably in not revealing the truth and thereby clearing Brighton & Hove Albion's name.

Yes, that is correct.

I, on behalf of the entire football club have just admitted... whereas alternatively, you could be reading a little bit to deep into my post.

Sadly the sh*t might now hit the fans, rather than the fan...

Will you be hiding in the now-closed Crescent again?

 

[Brian Fantana]

Relations between the two clubs must now be at an all-time low, and I fear what will happen off the pitch the next time the clubs play each other.

Apparently, relations between the respective boards were cordial. I doubt that they are now.

If Palace don't apologise, I'd hope that TB tells Parish and co where to go next time they try to get into the Boardroom for a match between us at the Amex.

 

[SDG]

This.

It's not particularly hard to understand. It's something that goes beyond a football match or the rivlary in general - it is basic commom human decency; something which is clearly in short supply at Selhurst Park.

We do have lots of well-paid cleaners though, something evidently missing. Does Barber's salary and FFP affect that at the Amex?

 

[Easy 10]

What time did this all take place? Were Palace delayed outside the ground, therefore causing stress to the driver? Did he feel the urgent need to relieve himself rather than perform his duties (bit strange as not a Palace employee, just a driver)?

I can envisage a stressed-up bloke behind the wheel, desperately trying to deliver the players to the ground being delayed and generally mucked about, feeling caught short (we've all been there) and running into the away dressing-room toilets just too late. Then trying to clear the mess up before the team arrive.

I can also imagine a wily character like Ollie realising that is one way to power up and motivate his team, especially Zaha. So it's down to Ollie I think. Take it out on Millwall the next time, assuming he's still there.

All of which is completely beside the point.

The issue is that in the aftermath of this incident, your club knew exactly who the culprit was, but stood by while BHA endured the ridicule and embarrassment of fans and media, apologised to your club profusely, and suspended members of staff while this was investigated.

CPFC stood by and watched. Probably sniggering up their sleeves along with everyone else.

Weasels.

 

[SDG]

All of which is completely beside the point.

The issue is that in the aftermath of this incident, your club knew exactly who the culprit was, but stood by while BHA endured the ridicule and embarrassment of fans and media, apologised to your club profusely, and suspended members of staff while this was investigated.

CPFC stood by and watched. Probably sniggering up their sleeves along with everyone else.

Weasels.

Slander.

Our expensive lawyers will be in touch.

 

[Brian Fantana]

We do have lots of well-paid cleaners though, something evidently missing. Does Barber's salary and FFP affect that at the Amex?

This has been discussed at length on this thread.

The reason why the bathroom wouldn't have been cleaned before the Palace team arrived is that we observed the correct security procedures. Having Brighton employees with easy access to the dressing room after kit had been delivered would have no doubt caused issues of its own.

 

[Danny-Boy]

Will you be hiding in the now-closed Crescent again?

Que? (As Calderon might say)

 

[Easy 10]

Slander.

Our expensive lawyers will be in touch.

Unable to come up with an adequate defence or excuse any more, so lets go down the SLANDER route and just deny it all.

Palace. Classy as ever.

 

[Everest]

Slander.

Our expensive lawyers will be in touch.

Only if they get paid up front

 

[Thunder Bolt]

We do have lots of well-paid cleaners though, something evidently missing. Does Barber's salary and FFP affect that at the Amex?

When your kit has been delivered and set out, would you want cleaners roaming around picking things up?

 

[Danny-Boy]

All of which is completely beside the point.

The issue is that in the aftermath of this incident, your club knew exactly who the culprit was, but stood by while BHA endured the ridicule and embarrassment of fans and media, apologised to your club profusely, and suspended members of staff while this was investigated.

CPFC stood by and watched. Probably sniggering up their sleeves along with everyone else.

Weasels.

Seems to be an admittance here that (a) the coach was deliberately held up and (b) the Albion management, realising that had caused the driver so much stress that he lost control of his bodily functions, apologised to Palace.

That's where it should have been left but the media got hold of the story and blew it up with allegations of slogans being put on the walls etc.

I will concede that at some stage after the play-offs were over Palace might have put out some sort of PR clarifying matters. But they didn't, probably Ollie vetoed it. And he then left the Club.

 

[Papa Lazarou]

Just to ensure people haven't missed this...

 

[KZNSeagull]

Now that this is in the public domain, has there been any statement from Palace confirming or denying this story? A properly run club would have said something by now, one would have thought.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Seems to be an admittance here that (a) the coach was deliberately held up and (b) the Albion management, realising that had caused the driver so much stress that he lost control of his bodily functions, apologised to Palace.

That's where it should have been left but the media got hold of the story and blew it up with allegations of slogans being put on the walls etc.

I will concede that at some stage after the play-offs were over Palace might have put out some sort of PR clarifying matters. But they didn't, probably Ollie vetoed it. And he then left the Club.

The video shown by Papa Lazarou shows that this happened 4 or 5 hours before the team arrived, so it wasn't the coach diverting to avoid traffic.