CAFC Matt
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If I remember rightly, I might be wrong but didn't Taylor take over a tream that was already winning so he didn't actually have that much to do. 
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Yes, Peter Taylor won us Division 2, yes of course i'm thankful, except his style of football wasn't one i agreed with, yes it got us results, but his long-ball and defensive style was just plain boring. The whole time he was with the Albion i'd never slate him, but the circumstances under which he left is what pisses me off. He knew before he took the job what our facilities and cash situation was, his reason for joining us was simple, we were already near, or at the top of the table when he joined. He took us on to win the league, which to be honest at least 46 of the other Nationwide managers could have done with what was already a successful side, and then left thinking he could take a higher job, HE USED US. And now he's seeking the consequences.
The fact is, that he simply used us to get what HE wanted, and for that i cannot be thankful to him.
The fact is, that he simply used us to get what HE wanted, and for that i cannot be thankful to him.
Uncle Spielberg
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Brightonbird, I am sure your a very nice lady but with respect your talking 
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Still your an Albion fan and as such are ok by me.
.Still your an Albion fan and as such are ok by me.
BrightonBird
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GG has a sense of humour bypass today. Someone's a little moody.
CAFC Matt
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Fluffster said:
Thought so, He isn't that good then because even I could do that
London Calling
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TAYLOR DEVELOPED MA'S SIDE UNDER HIM ALL OF THE FOLLOWING IMPROVED: ZAMORA, MAYO, HART, BROOKER, KUIPERS AND CULLIP.
WHEN MA LEFT WE WERE NOT DOING ANYTHING IMPRESSIVE IN THE SECOND.
IF MA HAD STAYED WHO KNOWS, HE IS A GREAT MANAGER.
AT FIRST -THIRD DIV LEVEL SO IS TAYLOR.
WE DID WELL UNDER HIM.
HE GAVE KNIGHT 3 MONTHS, MOST CLUBS NEED ONLY A FEW DAYS.
AS WE ALL KNOW THE LEVEL BETWEEN DIV 1 AND 2 WAS GREAT, WE HAVE VAUXALL-CONFERENCE FACILITIES.
AS A GOOD COACH TAYLOR WILL NEED GOOD FACILITIES TO DEVELOP FIST DIV QUALITY PLAYERS.
WE F*CKED UP AS A CLUB, NOT TAYLOR. HE DID HIS JOB. THE SAME AS MA. DID MA LOVE THE FANS? I REMEMEMBER A COUPLE OF SNIDES COMMENTS BY HIM AND HIS BALD MATE.
LC1
WHEN MA LEFT WE WERE NOT DOING ANYTHING IMPRESSIVE IN THE SECOND.
IF MA HAD STAYED WHO KNOWS, HE IS A GREAT MANAGER.
AT FIRST -THIRD DIV LEVEL SO IS TAYLOR.
WE DID WELL UNDER HIM.
HE GAVE KNIGHT 3 MONTHS, MOST CLUBS NEED ONLY A FEW DAYS.
AS WE ALL KNOW THE LEVEL BETWEEN DIV 1 AND 2 WAS GREAT, WE HAVE VAUXALL-CONFERENCE FACILITIES.
AS A GOOD COACH TAYLOR WILL NEED GOOD FACILITIES TO DEVELOP FIST DIV QUALITY PLAYERS.
WE F*CKED UP AS A CLUB, NOT TAYLOR. HE DID HIS JOB. THE SAME AS MA. DID MA LOVE THE FANS? I REMEMEMBER A COUPLE OF SNIDES COMMENTS BY HIM AND HIS BALD MATE.
LC1
BrightonBird
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Gareth Glover said:Brightonbird, I am sure your a very nice lady but with respect your talking
Still your an Albion fan and as such are ok by me.
I am not the only one Mr Glover who thinks this. So you can
my ass
Uncle Spielberg
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Fluffster - your a little misguided my friend if you don't think that every single manager we ever have is " using " us. Steve Coppell is doing it, Micky Adams did it, Brian Horton did it - why are you not slagging them off, at least be consistant !.
If a manager does well he will look for a better offer. Coppell did it for 6 weeks when he was in Thailand waiting to see if a better offer would come up.
Brighton are a stepping stone club to greater glory and will be until we get Falmer and realise our Premiership potential. Then the boot will be on the other foot and we can be the users.
If a manager does well he will look for a better offer. Coppell did it for 6 weeks when he was in Thailand waiting to see if a better offer would come up.
Brighton are a stepping stone club to greater glory and will be until we get Falmer and realise our Premiership potential. Then the boot will be on the other foot and we can be the users.
Soton Seagull
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Taylors tactics were very simple. Score a goal whilst playing well and then defend, even if that means for the remaining 89 minutes. Far too negative. Fair play to the man, he got us promoted, but I feel his skill in that was to not really change the team.
Dour man, dour performances, better off without him.
Dour man, dour performances, better off without him.
NO, Micky Adams did not use us. He did a great job as manager for Brighton & Hove Albion and then got the break he deserved, but he did not accept the managers job here LOOKING for a bigger job. Peter Taylor's intentions were obvious, take over a team which were top of the league and use us to get a better job.
Micky Adams, and Steve Coppell haven't quit their jobs as managers to apply for jobs in a higher league. Micky Adams and Steve Coppell have been linked with the higher profile jobs because of how well they have done for us, but they haven't left us to put themselves openly into the frame. Unlike Peter Taylor, he won us the Championship, then quit from his job because he thought he could get a better one elsewhere.
Micky Adams, and Steve Coppell haven't quit their jobs as managers to apply for jobs in a higher league. Micky Adams and Steve Coppell have been linked with the higher profile jobs because of how well they have done for us, but they haven't left us to put themselves openly into the frame. Unlike Peter Taylor, he won us the Championship, then quit from his job because he thought he could get a better one elsewhere.
CAFC Matt
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Fluffster said:Again, exactly my point.
Ok, so maybe I couldn't do it, but anybody with an FA coaching badge probably could.
Lets go get one - you can do them at CAFC
Uncle Spielberg
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Taylor left because he felt the budget given to him did not allow him to have any chance of competing in Div 1 with a view to keeping us up. If he had he would have stayed. I suppose you can say history has proved him right.
Do not delude yourself, Fluffster, that Adams or Coppell care about this club, certainly not in the way you and I do, it is a job, pure and simple. If something better comes up , off they go. Sure they will have fond memories of their time at the club but its one of many clubs they are involved with during their careers as player and manager.
We however only have involvement in 1 club, that is the difference.
Do not delude yourself, Fluffster, that Adams or Coppell care about this club, certainly not in the way you and I do, it is a job, pure and simple. If something better comes up , off they go. Sure they will have fond memories of their time at the club but its one of many clubs they are involved with during their careers as player and manager.
We however only have involvement in 1 club, that is the difference.
Of course Micky Adams and Steve Coppell don't love the club as much as we do, the fans... but at least Micky and SC have stayed with us, and not simply abandoned us while they're looking for a better job elsewhere.
The excuse about the playing budget for next year was absolute rubbish, it was simply an excuse to get him out of the job and let him look for a higher profile one elsewhere. PT always knew we didn't have any money to spend, from the moment he took the job. Nothing had changed come the summer. And the fact is Steve Coppell came in, with the same playing budget offered to PT and nearly kept us up, with superb loan signings, such as Steve Sidwell. Who i'd prefer in my team than Junior Lewis or David Lee anyday.
Peter Taylor used us, as you claim Micky Adams also did, but Peter Taylor simply wasn't discreet about it. And now he's down in Division 3 and worse off than he was with us, and it serves him right quite frankly.
The excuse about the playing budget for next year was absolute rubbish, it was simply an excuse to get him out of the job and let him look for a higher profile one elsewhere. PT always knew we didn't have any money to spend, from the moment he took the job. Nothing had changed come the summer. And the fact is Steve Coppell came in, with the same playing budget offered to PT and nearly kept us up, with superb loan signings, such as Steve Sidwell. Who i'd prefer in my team than Junior Lewis or David Lee anyday.
Peter Taylor used us, as you claim Micky Adams also did, but Peter Taylor simply wasn't discreet about it. And now he's down in Division 3 and worse off than he was with us, and it serves him right quite frankly.
London Calling
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NOT CONVINCED FLUFFSTER,
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS SAID AT TAYLOR'S INTERVIEW, HE WOULD HAD BEEN TOLD, YOU HAVE A BUDGET TO TINKER WITH THE SIDE AND GET US AROUND THE TOP OF SECOND.
TAYLOR MAY HAVE SAID" BUT WHAT HAPPENS IF WE GET PROMOTED"
THE REPLY "LETS CROSS THAT BRIDGE WHEN WE GET TO IT".
WHO KNOWS?
WE GAVE TAYLOR A JOB WHEN HE WAS UNEMPLOYED.
BUT HE COULD HAVE STAYED, SIGNED A YEAR CONTRACT AND LEFT AT ANY TIME FOR A BETTER DEAL, THAT WOULD HAVE ALSO BEEN USING OUR CLUB.
I AM HAPPY WITH TAYLOR. HE DID A JOB.
WE GOT PROMOTED.
THE REST IS HISTORY.
LC1
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS SAID AT TAYLOR'S INTERVIEW, HE WOULD HAD BEEN TOLD, YOU HAVE A BUDGET TO TINKER WITH THE SIDE AND GET US AROUND THE TOP OF SECOND.
TAYLOR MAY HAVE SAID" BUT WHAT HAPPENS IF WE GET PROMOTED"
THE REPLY "LETS CROSS THAT BRIDGE WHEN WE GET TO IT".
WHO KNOWS?
WE GAVE TAYLOR A JOB WHEN HE WAS UNEMPLOYED.
BUT HE COULD HAVE STAYED, SIGNED A YEAR CONTRACT AND LEFT AT ANY TIME FOR A BETTER DEAL, THAT WOULD HAVE ALSO BEEN USING OUR CLUB.
I AM HAPPY WITH TAYLOR. HE DID A JOB.
WE GOT PROMOTED.
THE REST IS HISTORY.
LC1
Brighton Breezy
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I hate Peter taylor.
Icy Gull
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Gareth, you're wasting your time. I wholeheartedly agree with you but plenty of Albion fans cannot accept that PT left because he knew the team was not good enough without investment.
This was pre the final collapse of ITV digital , which was a godsend to us because all the teams already in Div 1 would have had money to spend. DK would have put it all towards Falmer (I'm not dissing him for that). We ended up competing with teams who were in financial disarray because of ITV digital and had to offload players. At the time PT left he could not have known this and was 100% right in his assumption that the team wasn't good enough.
PT left without securing employment elsewhere unlike MA who used us as a stepping stone (and has since admitted it). He had the courage of his convictions and to hear him slagged of for it ,is a sad reflection on the blinkered and bigoted Albion fans who do not seem to understand that we owe him as much, if not more than he owed DK for appointing him.
Neither PT nor MA were or are Brighton fans , so why expect them to behave as if they are?
The comments about his tactical ability, or apparent lack of it are
laughable. Don't you remember the number of games that we won or drew because of PT's tactical ability? His ability aligned with MA's team are what won us a championship, what more do you want
This was pre the final collapse of ITV digital , which was a godsend to us because all the teams already in Div 1 would have had money to spend. DK would have put it all towards Falmer (I'm not dissing him for that). We ended up competing with teams who were in financial disarray because of ITV digital and had to offload players. At the time PT left he could not have known this and was 100% right in his assumption that the team wasn't good enough.
PT left without securing employment elsewhere unlike MA who used us as a stepping stone (and has since admitted it). He had the courage of his convictions and to hear him slagged of for it ,is a sad reflection on the blinkered and bigoted Albion fans who do not seem to understand that we owe him as much, if not more than he owed DK for appointing him.
Neither PT nor MA were or are Brighton fans , so why expect them to behave as if they are?
The comments about his tactical ability, or apparent lack of it are
laughable. Don't you remember the number of games that we won or drew because of PT's tactical ability? His ability aligned with MA's team are what won us a championship, what more do you want
Pavilionaire
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Some people on this board need to be more philosophical about the Taylor issue and stop attacking the guy.
The facts are that he came in with 3/4 of the season left and got us up as champions. He then decided to seek a better job elsewhere - error of judgement, he overrated himself.
However, at least he gave DK plenty of notice, and had DK done the right thing and appointed Coppell straight away we'd still be in Div 1.
We're about to find out just how hard it is to win this division as champions. Getting back into Div 1 was a massive boost for the status of this club, it put us back on the football map and Taylor deserves a lot of credit.
The facts are that he came in with 3/4 of the season left and got us up as champions. He then decided to seek a better job elsewhere - error of judgement, he overrated himself.
However, at least he gave DK plenty of notice, and had DK done the right thing and appointed Coppell straight away we'd still be in Div 1.
We're about to find out just how hard it is to win this division as champions. Getting back into Div 1 was a massive boost for the status of this club, it put us back on the football map and Taylor deserves a lot of credit.
34064 Fighter Command
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Mickey Adams signed a contract when manager, thereby ensuring the club were able to get compensation when he left to take on a PREMIERSHIP club.
Peter Taylor REFUSED to sign a contract. It was sitting on the table, awaiting his signature for 8 months. He was happy to work on a week to week basis.
Now that tells me a number of things.
When he joined, MA knew he would be at the club a number of years, PT knew he would only be at the club a matter of months.
Did PT leave to take a better offer, or even any offer ? No, he just upped and left.
Now people say that lengths of contract are irrelevant in football, but it represents a guarentee of future employment ( and salary ) so something must have been going on in the back of PT's mind regarding getting back into the England set-up.
I think PT is a good 1st or 2nd Div Manager, certainly not up to Premiership standard though. But he never seemed particularly committed to the club, the fans, or the board of directors.
Peter Taylor REFUSED to sign a contract. It was sitting on the table, awaiting his signature for 8 months. He was happy to work on a week to week basis.
Now that tells me a number of things.
When he joined, MA knew he would be at the club a number of years, PT knew he would only be at the club a matter of months.
Did PT leave to take a better offer, or even any offer ? No, he just upped and left.
Now people say that lengths of contract are irrelevant in football, but it represents a guarentee of future employment ( and salary ) so something must have been going on in the back of PT's mind regarding getting back into the England set-up.
I think PT is a good 1st or 2nd Div Manager, certainly not up to Premiership standard though. But he never seemed particularly committed to the club, the fans, or the board of directors.