[Albion] Pervis rumour. Not sure on credibility

[REDTOP]

Maybe Pervis has asked for double his current wages, which seems to me entirely fair seeing as how he's being asked to do the work of two players on the left

 

[Zeberdi]

Barco is a defender who can't really defend, isn't particularly strong in the tackle, has a lower work rate than we're used to and is positionally suspect - at least on the showings he's had for us.

He's a bit like a poor man's Trent Alexander Arnold. Which is great if you have the ball a lot and Virgil Van Dyk next to you.

NDP or not, I don't think he's a good premier league player in our system.

I disagree. I think a ball carrying WB is exactly what FH wants.

Sevilla was a dud but he’s had an excellent half season at Strasbourg - he’s blossomed as a WB and been ‘instrumental’ in their success this season. He has also again been called up for Argentina, arguably one of the best current international teams in the world.

Valentín Barco a key piece in Strasbourg’s success - Get French Football News

Just before the winter transfer window closed, the Alsace club signed Valentín Barco (20) on loan from Brighton and Hove Albion for the remainder of the

www.getfootballnewsfrance.com

 

[Hometownglory]

Easy to say, none of us knows what goes on at the club on a day to day basis, that's one of the reasons we employ Fabian Hurzeler and his team.

As for Gyokeres, did any of us think when we let him go that he would blossom into the player he has become? . . . no l thought not. A wonderful thing hindsight.

Sorry to say, but you completely contradict yourself between the pount 1 and 2.

 

[Machiavelli]

I disagree. I think a ball carrying WB is exactly what FH wants.

Sevilla was a dud but he’s had an excellent half season at Strasbourg - he’s blossomed as a WB and been ‘instrumental’ in their success this season. He has also again been called up for Argentina, arguably one of the best current international teams in the world.

Valentín Barco a key piece in Strasbourg’s success - Get French Football News

Just before the winter transfer window closed, the Alsace club signed Valentín Barco (20) on loan from Brighton and Hove Albion for the remainder of the

www.getfootballnewsfrance.com

The assumption there is that FH is going to play with wing backs. Very little evidence of that last season.

 

[Change at Barnham]

There was a moment for me when playing away at Bournemouth in 23/24 when we were getting stuffed, Bournemouth had a break down the right and it looked like he couldn't be arsed to track back because he knew we had already lost.
That's why I have doubted him. Hopefully he's now a bit more mature.
He does look to be able to ping a centre across nicely when going forward.

 

[Weststander]

I dont get people saying Pervis isnt up to it at all. He was one of the stand out left backs in RDZ's first season and comfortably better than Cuccurella at Chelsea that season. He then got injured and has been inconsistent since. Some weeks he's great others a bit off it, but he's still a bloody good LB, especially when he and Karou are clicking. He'll be a big squad gap to fill if he goes.

Yes, a brilliant defender season one, better than Cuckoo. But so often poor defending for two seasons since starting with West Ham at the Amex August 23 …. they left him for dead 80 yards upfield on repeat. Out of position or over committing at the half way line, against most opponents.

To genuine ITK folk …. has Estupinan been carrying a significant injury for 2 complete seasons?

 

[Cheggers]

wtf.

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This is Barco trolling Pedro. He had to go.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

Barco is a defender who can't really defend, isn't particularly strong in the tackle, has a lower work rate than we're used to and is positionally suspect - at least on the showings he's had for us.

He's a bit like a poor man's Trent Alexander Arnold. Which is great if you have the ball a lot and Virgil Van Dyk next to you.

NDP or not, I don't think he's a good premier league player in our system.

Yet he still makes the World Cup winners squad?

He’s a young player, who hadn’t fully adjusted to this country when he made his debut, but he still had some positive moments in between some difficult ones.
Hits a great ball, and if/when he signs for Strasbourg I’ll be a little disappointed.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

There was a moment for me when playing away at Bournemouth in 23/24 when we were getting stuffed, Bournemouth had a break down the right and it looked like he couldn't be arsed to track back because he knew we had already lost.
That's why I have doubted him. Hopefully he's now a bit more mature.
He does look to be able to ping a centre across nicely when going forward.

I think he was struggling with the pace of the game and fitness initially.

 

[Hugo Rune]

Barco is a defender who can't really defend, isn't particularly strong in the tackle, has a lower work rate than we're used to and is positionally suspect - at least on the showings he's had for us.

It turns out that his Strasbourg showreel presents the opposite to this. An incredibly tenacious young player adept at getting back in position, effective in tackle after tackle and full of tireless running.

The rumours Chelsea want him are clearly justified. He had a stonking 2nd half of the season where he knuckled down and performed admirably by all accounts.



I just hope the club hasn't written him off as quickly as you clearly have!

 

[Whitechapel]

It’s quite amazing that people still bring up the No Dickhead Policy when we’ve had numerous players leave on bad terms & 5(?) players in court for driving like complete bellends in the Premier League Era.

If the NDP exists then it’s either laughably ineffective or an incredibly low bar. I’m sure the club look in to personality a bit, but unless they break in to transfer targets house and have a snoop through their diary then I’m not sure its worth two shits.

 

[timbha]

It’s quite amazing that people still bring up the No Dickhead Policy when we’ve had numerous players leave on bad terms & 5(?) players in court for driving like complete bellends in the Premier League Era.

If the NDP exists then it’s either laughably ineffective or an incredibly low bar. I’m sure the club look in to personality a bit, but unless they break in to transfer targets house and have a snoop through their diary then I’m not sure its worth two shits.

I think you are taking it too literally. It’s more about the type of player we want - attitude, behaviour, hunger, etc, etc, rather than if they have an offensive tattoo from 10 years ago.

 

[Justice]

Sory, What is NDP

Something NSC made up

 

[brighton_tom]

It’s quite amazing that people still bring up the No Dickhead Policy when we’ve had numerous players leave on bad terms & 5(?) players in court for driving like complete bellends in the Premier League Era.

If the NDP exists then it’s either laughably ineffective or an incredibly low bar. I’m sure the club look in to personality a bit, but unless they break in to transfer targets house and have a snoop through their diary then I’m not sure its worth two shits.

Or there's just no such thing as a perfect failproof NDP/personality check. But that doesnt mean you shouldn't attempt it. The problem is you cant predict how these young players personalities will change over the years and how they'll act once they've sampled some of the cash & fame of Prem football. When signing young players we will absolutely take time to check what their personality is like and if we think they'll fit in with the group (which in a sense is a NDP), but there's no accounting for what they'll be like further down the line once the contract is signed, or once a bigger team taps them up, or what subtle personality traits werent detected in any checks. The club will do their due diligence in finding out what a player is like on a personal level before signing them, but that doesnt mean they'll catch every bad egg. & just because said checks arent perfect that doesnt mean they should be scrapped altogether. Some questionable characters may have made it into the squad, but without any of the background checks it could have been a lot more for all we know.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

Yet he still makes the World Cup winners squad?

He’s a young player, who hadn’t fully adjusted to this country when he made his debut, but he still had some positive moments in between some difficult ones.
Hits a great ball, and if/when he signs for Strasbourg I’ll be a little disappointed.

Which is why I'm convinced there is more going on that we know about. We spent ages tracking him. There is no way, no way on earth that we sack him off after six months because there was a suggestion he hadn't quite adapted on the pitch. If that's the case, why is Cashin still here? Sima? Both of those are, at face value, lesser players than Barco, who was on the radar of our scouting system for months, along with Man City.

If you think he's a talented player who just needs a bit of guidance, then you support him on and off the field. You coach him, you put that work in. Our very ethos is about getting players at decent prices who we can add value to by developing their skills and also making them better human beings. We've had plenty of players who took their time to get used to our game/ English football and they weren't all binned off like he's been. Nor have others been cast aside immediately when they've had minor tantrums. When that's happened in the past, the players in question have generally either got on with it in the end, or moved on, with us getting a decent fee for them. What we didn't do was bin them off sideways within weeks for the same price we bought them for.

I have absolutely no clue what it is, but for me, he has to have pissed somebody off big style for the Albion to have decided to cut their losses like this. It can't be the club deciding he's not good enough. Not that quickly.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

Which is why I'm convinced there is more going on that we know about. We spent ages tracking him. There is no way, no way on earth that we sack him off after six months because there was a suggestion he hadn't quite adapted on the pitch. If that's the case, why is Cashin still here? Sima? Both of those are, at face value, lesser players than Barco, who was on the radar of our scouting system for months, along with Man City.

If you think he's a talented player who just needs a bit of guidance, then you support him on and off the field. You coach him, you put that work in. Our very ethos is about getting players at decent prices who we can add value to by developing their skills and also making them better human beings. We've had plenty of players who took their time to get used to our game/ English football and they weren't all binned off like he's been. Nor have others been cast aside immediately when they've had minor tantrums. When that's happened in the past, the players in question have generally either got on with it in the end, or moved on, with us getting a decent fee for them. What we didn't do was bin them off sideways within weeks for the same price we bought them for.

I have absolutely no clue what it is, but for me, he has to have pissed somebody off big style for the Albion to have decided to cut their losses like this.

I may have said it earlier, but at the supporters club event Greer seemed very certain he wouldn’t return.

The other thing, as much as I rate him, I always found it interesting how City backed off…….. but I’m guessing now…..

 

[singing4seagulls]

Which is why I'm convinced there is more going on that we know about. We spent ages tracking him. There is no way, no way on earth that we sack him off after six months because there was a suggestion he hadn't quite adapted on the pitch. If that's the case, why is Cashin still here? Sima? Both of those are, at face value, lesser players than Barco, who was on the radar of our scouting system for months, along with Man City.

If you think he's a talented player who just needs a bit of guidance, then you support him on and off the field. You coach him, you put that work in. Our very ethos is about getting players at decent prices who we can add value to by developing their skills and also making them better human beings. We've had plenty of players who took their time to get used to our game/ English football and they weren't all binned off like he's been. Nor have others been cast aside immediately when they've had minor tantrums. When that's happened in the past, the players in question have generally either got on with it in the end, or moved on, with us getting a decent fee for them. What we didn't do was bin them off sideways within weeks for the same price we bought them for.

I have absolutely no clue what it is, but for me, he has to have pissed somebody off big style for the Albion to have decided to cut their losses like this. It can't be the club deciding he's not good enough. Not that quickly.

Completely agree. It's very strange and can only mean something went down.

 

[timbha]

I may have said it earlier, but at the supporters club event Greer seemed very certain he wouldn’t return.

The other thing, as much as I rate him, I always found it interesting how City backed off…….. but I’m guessing now…..

I’m disappointed in Greer if he said that.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

I’m disappointed in Greer if he said that.

Why? He's not said the bloke's a knob, merely that he doesn't expect him to return, which considering that he's on loan at a club who have an obligation to buy, seems like fact to me.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

I’m disappointed in Greer if he said that.

Others who were there may have interpreted it differently, but fairly certain that what I heard……

But to be clear it wasn’t in context of misbehaviour or a divulgence of anything, just something in the public domain, the loan to buy agreement