"Pardew Out" "Allardyce Out" "Hyypia Out"

[Working class pride]

He knew what he was getting into so why do you have any sympathy towards Hypia?

I just think the manager should buy the players and he was handed those summer signings. I'm not saying we shouldnt be making a better fist of it but for some reason I can't lay the blame all at his door because he didnt make the signings. Blame has to be shared with those who did.

 

[TheJasperCo]

Two of them are successful British managers with Premier League clubs; the third is a Scandinavian immigrant who has almost cost us our place in the second tier.

Sounds like a bloody UKIP advertisement.

 

[Sheebo]

I'm usually all for giving managers time and cringe a bit at other clubs who turn on a manager without enough justification... BUT I just see nothing to suggest Hyypia can turn it around. He seems a nice enough chap, so I don't want to be too harsh but he is there to be judged, and he seems to lack passion too - wouldn't motivate me listening to him tbh...

 

[Geriatric Seagull]

The Newcastle fans hate their Chairman because he is southern and, thus, not one of them. The anti-Pardew feeling is an extension of that. Unless you are Kevin Keegan it is hard to please them.
With Allardyce, it is similar but West Ham fans expect nice, passing football and academy players in the team. Allardyce is much more likely to play a more direct style.

What I am saying is that the fans of Newcastle/West Ham hated them before they started.

With Brighton it is different. We were happy to have Hypia and willing to support him. It is results that have changed that (and also that our players seem to run into each other following his tactics).

"We were happy to have Hyypia"! Oh, really? The man had a poor track record and has proved he is not up to the job!

 

[Harry H]

Has Hypia bought a player?
Even one?
I know that he has had a few sold from under him.

 

[WhingForPresident]

Hyypia has shown **** ALL to suggest that he is anything other than a clueless idiot that couldn't manage (or 'coach') his way out of a paper bag. Nobody will be bouncing any of this 'Hyypia Out' stuff in the future, because he will never prove any of us wrong, because it's obvious to anyone with half a brain that he is a ****ing terrible football manager.

 

[GT49er]

"We were happy to have Hyypia"! Oh, really? The man had a poor track record and has proved he is not up to the job!

Yes we were. The man had been a tremendous leader on the field, and the hope was that Bloom had found the next Gus Poyet. Hope didn't last very long though......

 

[GT49er]

The Newcastle fans hate their Chairman because he is southern and, thus, not one of them. The anti-Pardew feeling is an extension of that. Unless you are Kevin Keegan it is hard to please them.
With Allardyce, it is similar but West Ham fans expect nice, passing football and academy players in the team. Allardyce is much more likely to play a more direct style.

What I am saying is that the fans of Newcastle/West Ham hated them before they started.

With Brighton it is different. We were happy to have Hypia and willing to support him. It is results that have changed that (and also that our players seem to run into each other following his tactics).

Pardew out was started by West Ham fans many years ago now - keep up!

 

[folkestonesgull]

I think the biggest problem was the failure to recruit an experienced assistant manager to work with Hyppia after Sammy Lee changed his mind. The coaching staff are under resourced and Hyppia may just have worked out with an experiences head alongside him as originally planned. I don't think Hyppia is the man for the job, however if Bloom is going to stick with him bring in some decent coaching staff to give the players and manager a chance...

 

[Caveman]

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So if we do win on Friday you will be happy for Hyppia to stay?

No, I wouldn't say I'd be happy and i think a win would gloss over the facts. But, in relation to this thread last season West Ham were calling for Allardyces head, then yesterday they were 3rd in pl. Things can change quickly in football.

We were never going to beat Derby in all reality. But we should have beaten Fulham and must beat Millwall and ultimately if we don't then this must cost him his job?

 

[Rugrat]

You are right he Hyypia may just need time, but on balance it's probably because he isn't the right person in charge. Who knows what will happen in the future and how long do you wait to find out?

Maybe 5 years?

By then we'll be able to go to such places as Dover and Braintree full of confidence

 

[Moshe Gariani]

Hyypia has shown **** ALL to suggest that he is anything other than a clueless idiot that couldn't manage (or 'coach') his way out of a paper bag. Nobody will be bouncing any of this 'Hyypia Out' stuff in the future, because he will never prove any of us wrong, because it's obvious to anyone with half a brain that he is a ****ing terrible football manager.

This. I have spent the last 3 months constantly vigilant for even a glimmer of positive evidence that Sami might be a good football manager and one that I want to be our manager. Not a flicker. Nothing. It just gets worse and his interview after the game on Saturday was a new low point.

I know some would disagree (and might be right) but I cannot understand why, with things going so badly for him, Hyypia hasn't even tried to do a few things differently in terms of his self-presentation and interaction with the players and crowd during matches. He could easily be advised about a few simple behaviours that would make a difference and be worth a go given the circumstances. Probably too late now for him now though.

 

[8ace]

Two had achieved something as a manager in a previous job, one has been totally clueless in both jobs he has had.

This is the obviously the correct answer. F*cking stupid question really.

 

[Nitram]

Bobby Charlton, Bryan Robson, Paul Ince - some have got what it takes others given a chance have not. If Hyppia had not been a big name he would have never have got the job.
Pardew and Allardyce have earned the time to have blips because their track records show success over long periods. When things go wrong they have a bullish attitude, seem to have plans and can identify what needs to change. They take on their critics and stick a finger up to non believers, they have confidence and belief in what they do and wether you like them or not do garner a degree of respect. Sami does not appear to have any of these attributes. He does not fit the bill for a coach or a leader.

 

[northernseagull]

I think its hard to compare the three given that two have proven track records (Big Sam in particular)... And its even harder to compare given they operate in completely different leagues! Hypia I think could be decent in the long run but I would rather that not be whilst gambling Albion's existence in the second tier. Fair play to Pardew, I thought he was a dead man walking at Tyneside but I fear they are merely a few defeats from the 'end of the world' syndrome that Geordie fans are renowned for. We've been far more patient down on the south coast and its evidence to say 1 win in how ever many it is now isn't good enough. I don't think one win in 16 would keep Big Sam or Pardew in a job...

 

[beefypigeon]

I think its hard to compare the three given that two have proven track records (Big Sam in particular)... And its even harder to compare given they operate in completely different leagues! Hypia I think could be decent in the long run but I would rather that not be whilst gambling Albion's existence in the second tier. Fair play to Pardew, I thought he was a dead man walking at Tyneside but I fear they are merely a few defeats from the 'end of the world' syndrome that Geordie fans are renowned for. We've been far more patient down on the south coast and its evidence to say 1 win in how ever many it is now isn't good enough. I don't think one win in 16 would keep Big Sam or Pardew in a job...

I believe that Pardew had only had 1 win in 15 premier league games leading up to their recent run of good form, and that was against already relegated Cardiff last season.

 

[northernseagull]

I believe that Pardew had only had 1 win in 15 premier league games leading up to their recent run of good form, and that was against already relegated Cardiff last season.

Difference is that the fans we're a little more accommodating given a very solid start to the season in 13/14. It was unlikely to result in relegation where as our plight if continued certainly will...

 

[Scoffers]

Did SA or AP take a team that finished in the playoffs twice in a row to the bottom of the division?

or to put it another way, are our current squad better than 3 wins in 20 games ?

 

[Sweeney Todd]

In today’s Argus, Andy Naylor describes Hyypia’s “bold” selection at Derby as a “suicide note”.

 

[Notters]

Two had achieved something as a manager in a previous job, one has been totally clueless in both jobs he has had.

This keeps coming up again and again. Presumably we should've rejected Poyet for this reason?