Off Topic. Friend not paying a debt back, any advice?

[The Clamp]

As I've got older, I've realised you're better off not trusting anyone. Your 'friend' needs a good shoeing, relieving of two and a half grands worth of his gear then delivered to the local constabulary.
There's enough shit in this world already without being taken for a mug by a mate

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f it looks like none of us will ever see our money again, other methods will be employed to show him actions have consequences.

 

[Del Fenner]

Without sounding blase, I can afford to take the hit but It sticks in my craw somewhat. I basically want him to realise the legal consequences of what he's doing. Do you know if he fails to appear at small claims court can he be arrested?

No. If you turn up in court and present a valid case and he doesn't show, then the court finds in your favour, and a County Court judgement is registered against him. Then comes the fun of getting him to pay up.

 

[nwgull]

Without sounding blase, I can afford to take the hit but It sticks in my craw somewhat. I basically want him to realise the legal consequences of what he's doing. Do you know if he fails to appear at small claims court can he be arrested?

No, but your claim will still be heard by the judge. He doesn't have to be present.

 

[nwgull]

No. If you turn up in court and present a valid case and he doesn't show, then the court finds in your favour, and a County Court judgement is registered against him. Then comes the fun of getting him to pay up.

Depending on how you're feeling, you could sell your debt to a debt collection agency. You'd get some money back at least, while he'd have to deal with merciless bailiffs.

 

[The Clamp]

Okay, thanks. He'll def not show up.

 

[The Clamp]

Depending on how you're feeling, you could sell your debt to a debt collection agency. You'd get some money back at least, while he'd have to deal with merciless bailiffs.

Ah. I hadn't thought of that. How does that work please?

 

[Megazone]

Desperate people can be very ingenious with the deception, They are con artists and some of the lengths they will go to are extraordinary it almost a talent inits self. I often wonder how much better off these people would be if they channeled their "talents" in other directions just how successful they would become and then more content. Ah but then there would be no risk.... or cunning, well thought out lure & plan.... or the actual adrenaline buzz they get from the fear of detection or getting away with everything..... Some people are just also self destructive and live for the collapse and feeling of self worthlessness...

Some of them do realise their potential. Just take a look at who runs the banks.

 

[The Clamp]

He's being evicted tomorrow for owing his landlord 7k in back rent and refusing to move out. He sub let a room in the flat, didn't tell the landlord, pocketed the rent from the girl who rented the room. He changed all the bills into her name and told her the rent was "all in", he pocketed the lot. When she moved out she was unaware council tax were chasing her as he was just throwing all the summons' away that were arriving for her.Believe me, there is a string of people lining up to stick the boot in to this guy.

 

[Munchkin]

I have just the man......

Judge Rinder.

 

[The Clamp]

I've had a chap looking into him for a fortnight. He also has a stack of credit/debit cards for accounts with no money in them that he puts behind the bar in pubs, drinks all night then sneaks out "forgetting" to pay and take his card.

 

[Norman Baker suck my lozenge]

Kick the ****er about a bit,you will feel so much better.

 

[atomised]

Classy chap

 

[The Clamp]

Kick the ****er about a bit,you will feel so much better.

Believe me, I've been close many times. He's a weed too but I'm unfortunately just not that bloke.

 

[Psychobilly freakout]

I agree with all of that. I feel stupid though.

No need to feel stupid at all, never ever think that....

You were reeled in, with deception and lies, and puppy dog eyes.

 

[Psychobilly freakout]

I've had a chap looking into him for a fortnight. He also has a stack of credit/debit cards for accounts with no money in them that he puts behind the bar in pubs, drinks all night then sneaks out "forgetting" to pay and take his card.

That Ol chesnut, always amazes me why Pubs etc do not actually put the first drink through to just check....

 

[binky]

Many years ago I had much the same situation.

The "friend" lied through his teeth to everyone, and I ended up about £3500 out of pocket.

In some ways, I think he genuinely believed that he was entitled in some way, to perpetrate all the frauds, lies and thefts, because "society" was a) unfair to him, and b) structured in such a way that he had little fear of any comeback.

At the end of the day, I chalked it up to experience and walked away.

 

[Cowfold Seagull]

Kick the ****er about a bit,you will feel so much better.

That's your answer is it? to give him a good kicking?

 

[Norman Baker suck my lozenge]

Couple of slaps the threat of squirting expanding foam up the ******** should do the trick.

 

[highflyer]

No need to feel stupid at all, never ever think that....

You were reeled in, with deception and lies, and puppy dog eyes.

Better to believe in people (unless it's really obvious of course) as they present themselves. You will be right 99% of the time. You may be let down very occasionally (you hit the let-down jackpot in this case) but overall will have a much happier and fulfilled life than if you spend your every waking moment in a state of permanent distrust and suspicion.

Selling the debt to a collection agency gets my vote btw. Excellent solution and good use of NSC crowd sourcing

 

[brightn'ove]

other methods will be employed to show him actions have consequences.

Starting to sound like a bit of a gangster yourself there

Sounds like this bloke has it coming to him, no doubt he will have messed with the wrong person along the line and they won't be so 'legal' in their retribution.