No Standing At Withdean

[seagull1971]

Can anyone please help, i have sat in block j now for about five years getting behind the albion, occasionally this means standing up and getting behind your team.

On Saturday however most of you would have noticed this letter telling us we are in a all seater stadium and must remain seated at all times.

My point every Saturday over the PA system we here come on lets get behind the albion, this i believe you need to stand for unless you want to muffle your voice away in the back of the person head sitting in front of you.

Also you all remember Danny cullips header against Chesterfield, Lee Steeles last gasp winner against Bristol City, and most recently Virgo's magic against Swindon.

Yes these were three very important games for the albion, but every game should be treated with importance, with the whole of Withdean behind them, as i appreciate we have to cater for families and elderly with a 6000 stadium you can't expect to have many on their feets. So as advertised blocks h and j are the singing stands.


I appologise if i am missing the point here


What's your opinion?

All feedback wanted

 

[Brighton till i die]

could't agree more mate - it is utter bollox.

check out this thread for more info and discussions...

http://www.northstandchat.biz/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31728

 

[teaboy]

They're designated 'singing' stands, not 'standing areas'.

This is part of the problem. By having specific singing areas gives the impression that people shouldn't sing in the rest of the ground.

It IS possible to sing sitting down - but it kills the atmosphere to a great extent.

Standing at Withdean can cause problems, as people sit in their seats rather than where they want (as at away games). This limits individual choice of who you sit with/behind - there are no opportunities to move.

However, it is clear that there are a great number of supporters who DO want to stand during games. Maybe H and J blocks could be redesignated as standing areas. Obviously this would have to be an unofficial arrangement because, like it or not, Withdean is an all-seater stadium. A common sense approach is needed from both the club, stewards and fans.

 

[Lammy]

They're designated 'singing' stands, not 'standing areas'.

This is part of the problem. By having specific singing areas gives the impression that people shouldn't sing in the rest of the ground.

It IS possible to sing sitting down - but it kills the atmosphere to a great extent.

Standing at Withdean can cause problems, as people sit in their seats rather than where they want (as at away games). This limits individual choice of who you sit with/behind - there are no opportunities to move.

However, it is clear that there are a great number of supporters who DO want to stand during games. Maybe H and J blocks could be redesignated as standing areas. Obviously this would have to be an unofficial arrangement because, like it or not, Withdean is an all-seater stadium. A common sense approach is needed from both the club, stewards and fans.

It's nothing to do with the club, stewards or fans. The club would love to have standing at Withdean, it would increase capacity!

It is the Government that is pulling the strings. The Football League is forced to enforce these stupid laws because the police f***ed up at Hillsborough.

 

[The Great Cornholio]

I have never understood the fascination with standing up - it must be a primevial thing. Of course you stand/jump up during moments of excitement and the authorities understand that. But persistant standing ruins the game for people behind - I am wary of standing up as I am 6ft 1in and 15 stone and will block out the view for people behind. Watching football has changed since Hillsborough and whining about it will not change the new laws. Terraces are much more dangerous than seating - as a veteran of the North Stand "Crowd Surges" I can testify to that. How many times have you ended up 30 feet away from where you started?

Standing in seats is just inconsiderate to people behind. In an ideal world, there would still be terraces and you could indulge your needs there. But they have gone - get over it. Or continue constantly standing and get our already pitiful capacity reduced even further. Don't see it as an idle threat - if they have done it to Man Utd, they will do it to us.

Now cue the procession of complaints about miserable sods and "I'm a better supporter than you because I stand up and sing". Read Perry's article carefully - no-one is asking you to sit down for 90 minutes, sitting on your hands. Feel free to stand up at appropriate times and no-one will mind. Or keep standing for long periods and have your actions affect others.

BTW - this isn't aimed at seagull1971 - it's aimed at the string of replies I know will come.

 

[Lammy]

I have never understood the fascination with standing up - it must be a primevial thing. Of course you stand/jump up during moments of excitement and the authorities understand that. But persistant standing ruins the game for people behind - I am wary of standing up as I am 6ft 1in and 15 stone and will block out the view for people behind. Watching football has changed since Hillsborough and whining about it will not change the new laws. Terraces are much more dangerous than seating - as a veteran of the North Stand "Crowd Surges" I can testify to that. How many times have you ended up 30 feet away from where you started?

Standing in seats is just inconsiderate to people behind. In an ideal world, there would still be terraces and you could indulge your needs there. But they have gone - get over it. Or continue constantly standing and get our already pitiful capacity reduced even further. Don't see it as an idle threat - if they have done it to Man Utd, they will do it to us.

Now cue the procession of complaints about miserable sods and "I'm a better supporter than you because I stand up and sing". Read Perry's article carefully - no-one is asking you to sit down for 90 minutes, sitting on your hands. Feel free to stand up at appropriate times and no-one will mind. Or keep standing for long periods and have your actions affect others.

BTW - this isn't aimed at seagull1971 - it's aimed at the string of replies I know will come.

Miserable sod! You're not even a proper supporter!

 

[Dave the OAP]

" police f***ed up at Hillsborough"

Have you read any of the Police reports on that day, or eye witness reports, or Rogan Taylor's excellent book on the subject?


Last season, Manchester Council threatened to close most of the Old Trafford ground if the United fans did not sit down during European games. If you look around crowds during games...95% of the away support stand up! with us we are just trying to transfer our away support to Withdean...unfortunately we are fighting a losing battle.

It is also quite interesting that the board are constantly harranging us to sign petitions, write letters, go on marches etc etc, but when the issue of standing up by a few individuals is concerned they are extremely heavy handed and hand out letters and send letters to home addresses to those very people breaking their necks trying to save the club.

 

[Lammy]

" police f***ed up at Hillsborough"

Have you read any of the Police reports on that day, or eye witness reports, or Rogan Taylor's excellent book on the subject?

No. It was a flippant remark. Let's leave it at that.

 

[Brighton till i die]

Terraces are much more dangerous than seating - as a veteran of the North Stand "Crowd Surges" I can testify to that. How many times have you ended up 30 feet away from where you started?

that is the whole fun of it for some people (me included) - the surges the pushing the f***ing stuff football used to made of.

oh well, one day soon they will have a nice cricket field and bowls green in the Withdean stadium, and that'l have about the same atmosphere as presnt.

 

[seagull1971]

your missing my point completely, i do sit down for the whole game, stand only only to the falmer chants and to cheer a goal, what they are saying is remain seated at all times.

So ok pal i'll take your notes on board, not stand to cheer a goal and not acknowledge any falmer chants.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Pavarotti doesn't sing sitting down.

 

[Dancin Ninja BHA]

Terraces are much more dangerous than seating

True, but don't Bayern Munich still have terraces, whereby there are bars in front of every row so that if you go mental when a goal is scored, there is no danger of being hit by a surge from behind

Terraces/Standing in seating areas = atmosphere

Seating =

 

[Lammy]

your missing my point completely, i do sit down for the whole game, stand only only to the falmer chants and to cheer a goal, what they are saying is remain seated at all times.

So ok pal i'll take your notes on board, not stand to cheer a goal and not acknowledge any falmer chants.

What? Did you actually read the whole letter or just the heading? I believe Perry specifically mentions that they are not asking you to stay seating during Falmer chants or moment of high drama.

 

[The Great Cornholio]

that is the whole fun of it for some people (me included) - the surges the pushing the f***ing stuff football used to made of.

oh well, one day soon they will have a nice cricket field and bowls green in the Withdean stadium, and that'l have about the same atmosphere as presnt.

I'm sure driving at 150MPH is fun for some people - doesn't make it legal though does it? You are actually being honest unlike others who skirt around the issue - you want a mosh pit at football matches. There is probably a good argument for having one so like minded people can push each other around for 90 minutes. But it is not going to happen. Progress, like it or not, is geared around safety.

If you had your way and had an area like that - what would happen the first time someone got injured? A massive lawsuit is what would happen, suing the offender, the club, the safety officer, the police and anyone else they could think of.

 

[Dave the OAP]

They are not saying stay seated at all times......they are saying in their eyes it is acceptable to stand at "periods of high excitement" but when the game is mind numbingly boring you must sit down.

As the periods of high excitement are few and far between, they recon we should remain seated for the majority of the game.

I sit on the end of a row and because peoples inability to stay in their seats until the whistle goes at the end of the game/half time or get to the ground and in their seats before the game kicks off, then I cannot see what is going on unless i stand...until Perry sorts this out, I fail to see what I can do

 

[Brighton till i die]

Seating =

Seating = f***ing boring, quiet bollox non atmosphere, non exciting non f***ing anything!

raaaaaah!

 

[The Great Cornholio]

your missing my point completely, i do sit down for the whole game, stand only only to the falmer chants and to cheer a goal, what they are saying is remain seated at all times.

So ok pal i'll take your notes on board, not stand to cheer a goal and not acknowledge any falmer chants.

Reading back through the thead, I have no idea who "pal" is. No-one told you any such thing.

 

[Brighton till i die]

Reading back through the thead, I have no idea who "pal" is. No-one told you any such thing.

was thinking the same thing!

 

[Lammy]

I like pizza!

 

[The Great Cornholio]

I like pizza!

As do I but being allergic to cheese rules that out for me.