[News] Nigel Farage and Reform

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darkwolf666

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Being paid with by the already announced savings they will make which were already fairy stories. Just believe harder everyone. Sorted.

I assume this will be painted as outflanking Labour rather than focus on the how.
Well apparently Nigel has plenty of duty free fag packets to write all his calculations on!
 






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But it doesn't protect the individual members of the public from having their human rights taken away. Like this child molestor who has had convictions for sex with minors and indecent assault, in 2008 and 2013. When it comes to locking him away from his (and other people's) children, there is no problem. Until it comes to deporting him, and then there isa problem because it has now become his human right ot be near his own (and other people's) children.

How can it be a matter of absolute principle that a criminal can be deprived of his liberty via imprisonment, (because the freedom to roam the streets of Britain is a human right that can be overridden) but he cannot be deprived of his temporary right to stay in this country (because freedom to roam the streets of Britain is absolute and must not be overridden)?
How can it be, indeed.
It can't. Because it isn't.
What are you banging on about?
An illegal immigrant convicted of a crime will serve some time and will then be deported.

'Freedom to roam' is not a mechanism that allows an illegal immigrant, if convicted of a crime (in addition to being an illegal immigrant) to be granted permanent residence once released from prison.

Of course anyone facing a prison sentence may attempt to argue, using our laws and process, that because they have kids who are UK citizens, they should not go to prison.
For short sentences this sometimes works (albeit 99.9% of those who benefit are, er, white British mums).
However this won't override an existing order that the person be expelled for being an illegal immigrant.

I seem to recall a case some years ago when someone did successfully argue a convoluted case that delayed their deportation, based around having kids assimilated in the UK system.
I also recall certain sorts reacting like this was the biggest news story in decades. The new norm.
"Commit a crime and be give a room in a five star hotel". All that BNP bollocks.

It seems that some semi-educated people fell for it and still lap it up.

Meanwhile Labour have been deporting people in record numbers.
What do you want? Dragging people with funny accents out of bed and throwing them into the sea?

Anyway, more top Albion football Bantz from you. Well done. Carry on :facepalm:
 


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BBC broadcasting what amounts to a campaign speech.

Garage criticises PM for not being authentic because he relies on his notes while speaking ... proceeds to check notes every other second.

Challenges PM to a meeting in a working man's club to have a couple of pints and enjoy the channel 4 racing. Horse racing has been on ITV for nearly 10 years.
 




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Leader of the opposition (Farage) proselytizing on radio 5 now.

"The Pro Gaza vote, which has resulted from the policies of Labour and Conservative".

What an odd thing to say. Is he criticizing Labour and Conservative for backing Israel and opposing Hamas?
Is Farage a Hamas supporter?

Starmer is "unpatriotic" and his leadership "pointless".

Families who "get up at five in the morning to go to work"... "are no better of than the family next door who choose to not work".

Removing the two child cap will "help working class families have children". Weird aspiration. Why is having more than 2 kids a virtue or necessity?

"Working people should not pay tax till they earn £20K a year". Great. Paid for from Corbyn's magic money tree?

"We will scrap net zero". Burn Russian Coal!

"No more asylum hotels". Replaced by what?

"We will scrap the DEI agenda" . . . . that's Diversity (the opposite of discrimination against women, blacks etc), equality (that's treating everyone equally) and Inclusion (that the opposite of bullying 'spazzer' and 'poofs' in the workplace and the street).

What a disgusting shit of a man.
 
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darkwolf666

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Leader of the opposition (Farage) proselytizing on radio 5 now.

"The Pro Gaza vote, which has resulted from the policies of Labour and Conservative".

What an odd thing to say. Is he criticizing Labour and Conservative for backing Israel and opposing Hamas?
Is Farage a Hamas supporters?

Starmer is "unpatriotic" and his leadership "pointless".

Families who "get up at five in the morning to go to work"... "are no better of than the family next door who choose to not work".

Removing the two child cap will "help working class families have children". Weird aspiration. Why is having more than 2 kids a virtue or necessity?

"Working people should not pay tax till they earn £20K a year". Great. Paid for from Corbyn's magic money tree?

"We will scrap net zero". Burn Russian Coal!

"No more asylum hotels". Replaced by what?

"We will scrap the DEI agenda" . . . . that's Diversity (the opposite of discrimination against women, blacks etc), equality (that's treating everyone equally) and Inclusion (that the opposite of bullying 'spazzer' and 'poofs' in the workplace and the street).

What a disgusting shit of a man.
...and people fall for his weasel words!!!
 


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Farage will make housing more affordable by......

(I paraphrase)

not increasing the population by 10,000 (immigration)
not prioritizing former illegal immigrants (now settled) for council houses

Er, that was it. f***ing arsehole.
 




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"Children growing up in a stable family background do better in life
... that's what we should aim for."

(After noting that he is not the Pope. So.....how will you achieve this goal, Nige?).

Q. How much will it cost to move migrants from hotels and will you use tents?

A. "Migrant costs will be zero because migrants won't be coming. We will use the Australia model and tow the boats back. They won't be allowed to stay". Unless he's going to throw them in the sea this is all piss and wind.

"What an inspiring speech - finally someone giving us hope" say callers.
"Just waffle" say others.
 


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Farage will make housing more affordable by......

(I paraphrase)

not increasing the population by 10,000 (immigration)
not prioritizing former illegal immigrants (now settled) for council houses

Er, that was it. f***ing arsehole.
More lies from him as council housing is points based not ethnicity.
 


darkwolf666

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"Children growing up in a stable family background do better in life
... that's what we should aim for."

(After noting that he is not the Pope. So.....how will you achieve this goal, Nige?).

Q. How much will it cost to move migrants from hotels and will you use tents?

A. "Migrant costs will be zero because migrants won't be coming. We will use the Australia model and tow the boats back. They won't be allowed to stay". Unless he's going to throw them in the sea this is all piss and wind.

"What an inspiring speech - finally someone giving us hope" say callers.
"Just waffle" say others.
More half truths from Nige, relying on thick people not to "do their own research"...!

Australia still has refugee/asylum seekers land on their shores and some are granted leave to stay. So no zero costs!

As for their tow back policy. Most of the arrivals to Australia come on fully crewed fishing boats, that can be towed, not over-filled rubber dinghies likely to sink if attempts are made to tow.

Australia also has returns agreements in place with some of their "neighbours". Whereas Nigel was a leading force in removing our ability to do the same!
 






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Removing the two child cap will "help working class families have children". Weird aspiration. Why is having more than 2 kids a virtue or necessity?
I suspect this links back to the whole "great replacement" bollocks and a need among conspiracy theorists for white people to breed more, as seen in American family laws.
 


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Bodian

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"Children growing up in a stable family background do better in life
... that's what we should aim for."
Is this the same Farage that got married and had two children then got divorced, then got married to a non-brit and had two more children - but then has ended up living separately for many years, whilst also having a mistress, followed by a long-term relationship with another non-brit - but still being technically married.

Is that what he means by a 'stable family background'. Doesn't appear to have met his 'aims' if so.
 






Thunder Bolt

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I suspect this links back to the whole "great replacement" bollocks and a need among conspiracy theorists for white people to breed more, as seen in American family laws.
I can remember being in hospital in the 80’s in West Yorkshire, hearing women tell each other, the ‘others’ were having more children than ‘us’ and within a generation, whites would be outnumbered!
 


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