[News] Nigel Farage and Reform

[T.G]

Yes you're right, but some people have lumped in the whole 14 years of lies.

He did also f@ck a pig to be fair

 

[Weststander]

Removing the Ukrainian flag and having a blanket mandate on flags removes any other arguements about any future flags that people feel should be raised for example, should they raise a flag for Israel or Palestine?

I don't do X or YouTube either

Ukraine was illegally invaded by a mass murdering war machine.

I won’t muddy those waters with the eternal nsc binfests about the Middle East. I’ll let you lot do that across a plethora of other threads.

X, Facebook and YouTube is very relevant. I’m aware through friends and family of thickos who‘ve fallen for Putin’s relentless lies masquerading as English speaking sauces … with nonsense about Ukraine, Macron, the Obama’s. Guess what, these people vote Reform.

 

[TomandJerry]

They can f*** right off - that's my money and I don't want some some political nonentity financial illiterate messing with it.

I understand the sentiment but they have a democratic mandate within the councils they were elected in

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Why would people want to work minimum wage jobs?

Increasing the income tax to £20,000 could help tip the scales in some aspects.

"Claimants could earn £3,000 more per year than minimum wage workers, according to analysis by CSJ

Analysis by the Centre for Social Justice think tank found people on the top level of sickness benefits now earn an average of £23,900 a year while those on the minimum wage take home just £20,650 after tax.

A new documentary, Britain’s Benefit Scandal, has found evidence that some low paid workers are now trying to get themselves signed off sick."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/12/01/sickness-benefit-worth-more-minimum-wage-job/

I am not following the narrative.
Are you saying having a minimum wage is good or bad?

 

[WATFORD zero]

David Cameron was a decent PM by the standards set by BJ and Truss

Yes you're right, but some people have lumped in the whole 14 years of lies.

Well, apart from the one teensy weensy multi Trillion pound f*** up

 

[TomandJerry]

I am not following the narrative.
Are you saying having a minimum wage is good or bad?

The narrative is that, why should benefits pay more than someone working on minimum wage?

 

[A1X]

Targeting woke net zero investments ...



"Reform could block “woke” net zero investments made by the country’s largest public sector pension scheme.

The Right-of-centre political party swept to victory in the local elections this month and now controls 10 councils across England.

It means councillors will hold key roles overseeing more than £100bn of assets within the Local Government Pension Scheme (LGPS), which pays for the retirements of millions of council workers.

Around half of the funds within the LGPS have established net zero targets that aim to invest more money in low-carbon initiatives, such as renewable energy."

How is renewable energy “woke”? What does woke even mean in this scenario?

 

[TomandJerry]

Well, apart from the one teensy weensy multi Trillion pound f*** up

Yes but it wasn't a lie from David Cameron.

He campaigned for Remain and had the decency to step down once he lost.

 

[keaton]

Possibly the BBC ascribes significance to the Euro elections too, in which Farage twice led the party that won the most votes and seats in the UK.

Perhaps you ought to argue about Liberal bias as well. No fewer than three Liberal leaders are on the list of the top 9 panellists, compared with none at all for the Tories or Labour. Don't you think it might be that there is a smaller pool of talent to pick from in the minor parties so the same faces appear again and again?

Do you think the labour and Tory ones haven't appeared because they haven't been asked?

 

[AlbionBro]

He did also f@ck a pig to be fair

Go on please remind me?

 

[TomandJerry]

How is renewable energy “woke”? What does woke even mean in this scenario?

Not sure, but it's not only Reform using this term about net zero:

"BlackRock, the world's biggest asset manager, has declared there is no longer any need to shout about net zero in the latest sign of its retreat from so-called woke capitalism."

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money...es-U-turn-net-zero-scales-woke-investing.html

 

[AlbionBro]

Yes but it wasn't a lie from David Cameron.

He campaigned for Remain and had the decency to step down once he lost.

Yes you're right again, Cameron had some respect for everyone, if Starmer was built the same he would leave now, I wasted my vote.

 

[Weststander]

Would love Starmer to announce talks with the EU on much closer ties. The feathers that would ruffle.

You know it makes sense. Just 20 miles away lies a huge market and, other than Orban, an ally.

 

[T.G]

Go on please remind me?

Piggate! https://www.theguardian.com/politic...s-gaveston-society-what-we-know-oxford-secret

 

[TomandJerry]

Would love Starmer to announce talks with the EU on much closer ties. The feathers that would ruffle.

You know it makes sense. Just 20 miles away lies a huge market and, other than Orban, an ally.

I'd be putting money on a Reform win in the next general election if this happened

 

[Chicken Run]

Seriously can't get worked up about flags. That's one for the thick simpletons who vote for them. Putting up a flag or taking one down doesn't fix anything. It's meaningless.

Nah i’m not having that in the Navy we put up loads of flags that had meaning, my favourite being No diving i’m discharging

 

[birthofanorange]

Targeting woke net zero investments ...



"Reform could block “woke” net zero investments made by the country’s largest public sector pension scheme.

The Right-of-centre political party swept to victory in the local elections this month and now controls 10 councils across England.

It means councillors will hold key roles overseeing more than £100bn of assets within the Local Government Pension Scheme (LGPS), which pays for the retirements of millions of council workers.

Around half of the funds within the LGPS have established net zero targets that aim to invest more money in low-carbon initiatives, such as renewable energy."

Apart from the ones that are incapable and have already resigned, been booted out or will be, due to their inevitable f*** ups. It won't leave many, thankfully, and they are welcome to crawl back under their rocks.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Not sure, but it's not only Reform using this term about net zero:

"BlackRock, the world's biggest asset manager, has declared there is no longer any need to shout about net zero in the latest sign of its retreat from so-called woke capitalism."

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money...es-U-turn-net-zero-scales-woke-investing.html

Lazy journalism

 

[WATFORD zero]

Targeting woke net zero investments ...



"Reform could block “woke” net zero investments made by the country’s largest public sector pension scheme.

The Right-of-centre political party swept to victory in the local elections this month and now controls 10 councils across England.

It means councillors will hold key roles overseeing more than £100bn of assets within the Local Government Pension Scheme (LGPS), which pays for the retirements of millions of council workers.

Around half of the funds within the LGPS have established net zero targets that aim to invest more money in low-carbon initiatives, such as renewable energy."

And, yet again you've come up with "quotes" with completely no reference to where they are from. And, yet again when you don't give sources, it's complete and utter bollocks.

Councillors don't decide where council pensions are invested, it's generally a Pensions Committee which normally has significant employee representation on it.

I'm still with you being a troll as I don't believe it's possible, even for a reform supporter, to be as stupid as you appear

 

[TomandJerry]

Lazy journalism

"The wind was in the sails of governments and institutions touting climate action, and banks acted accordingly. Today, on the back of record fossil fuel profitability, a protracted backlash against “woke capital” and the second coming of Trump, the calculus has changed."
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jan/15/woke-capital-net-zero-banking-alliance