[News] Nigel Farage and Reform

[Thunder Bolt]

Darren Grimes is a shouty man on the internet with no decipherable broadcasting skills. He interviews within an echo chamber and believes that being a homophobic homosexual will somehow endear him to his audience. He will eventually learn. Many years ago I said how anyone could be gay and vote Tory is beyond me. I don't believe that such a statement is valid anymore. But I would say how anyone could be homosexual and support Reform is most definitely beyond my understanding.

They don’t even care that he was sacked from GBNews for allegedly pestering a young staffer.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I wonder if they still have the office space for everyone to be in the office. I am pretty sure that I read the civil service could not fit in the offices remaining. Something like 60% can be in at the same time in some departments. So would the tax payers really want millions more spent on office space rather than services so people can join teams calls all day from a building sitting together rather than in their own homes?

The Civil Service sold off, or stopped renting properties way back before I retired in 2014. They insisted we hot desk, which had to go out of the window when COVID hit.

 

[Pavilionaire]

But I would say how anyone could be homosexual and support Reform is most definitely beyond my understanding.

It's Nazi fetishism. The polished jackboots, the long-leather coats and the shiny, peaked black cap.

 

[kojak]

So you've decided to ignore all facts, laws etc and believed Stephen Yaxley-Lennon. Well he's certainly exposed someone

Even your friend Nige and Reform haven't been stupid enough to go full Yaxley-Lennon ............. yet

To be clear
I you saying Pakistani rape gangs don't exist?

 

[KZNSeagull]

That felt very Trumpian. We shouldn't be surprised. But now the right wing media will become more emboldened. Don't think they have changed, they were waiting their day.

In Durham Council there may well be folk working on those initiatives. He has chosen to single them out as pariahs with language he can get away with. But the toxic undertones were there and the cackling crowd. Textbook. Those are probably honest hard working folk who may have families, now open to being targeted beyond his rhetoric by loons who follow him.

Sad day. The only saving grace being that in an election that was a complete open goal, they scored a third of the vote. So for every one who supports them there are two that don't.

At least. Over half of the electorate eligible to vote didn't bother, so one can hope that the Reform vote was about as good as it could get. In any event, there are now 4 years before a general election, plenty of time for them to royally balls up everything they touch, whilst being associated with their great mate in the US as he screws that country up. Importantly, every other party has to up their game massively too.

 

[GrizzlingGammon]

To be clear
I you saying Pakistani rape gangs don't exist?

There's more of "our own" whities going around in rape gangs.

To be clear, you're happy with these people?

 

[banjo]

Sometimes NSC is like going to a silent disco, but being able to listen to all the other shit music the others are listening too. I love it.

 

[TomandJerry]

Farage already planning his moves:

"Reform leader Nigel Farage says his party will be "radical, a breath of fresh air in county hall" after taking control of several local councils.

There is too much wasteful expenditure, and trying to do too many things, we want to try and change that," says Farage.

"If you work from home, forget it. If you're a DEI [diversity, equity and inclusion] officer, I suggest you look for another job."

 

[WATFORD zero]

Farage already planning his moves:

"Reform leader Nigel Farage says his party will be "radical, a breath of fresh air in county hall" after taking control of several local councils.

There is too much wasteful expenditure, and trying to do too many things, we want to try and change that," says Farage.

"If you work from home, forget it. If you're a DEI [diversity, equity and inclusion] officer, I suggest you look for another job."

Trump would be proud

 

[Since1982]

Perhaps, by the time of the next election, the charlatans of Reform will have screwed up the councils they are now running so badly, that this mid term spike never translates into a long term GE spike. Or maybe I'm just overly optimistic.

 

[Berty23]

Perhaps, by the time of the next election, the charlatans of Reform will have screwed up the councils they are now running so badly, that this mid term spike never translates into a long term GE spike. Or maybe I'm just overly optimistic.

I guess that’s the hope but it might be that they simply blame the government I. The same way they say Brexit only failed because of not doing it properly and people will lap it up.

 

[birthofanorange]

Perhaps, by the time of the next election, the charlatans of Reform will have screwed up the councils they are now running so badly, that this mid term spike never translates into a long term GE spike. Or maybe I'm just overly optimistic.

They'll screw-up.....guaranteed.

 

[Lenny Rider]

Reform UK's Luke Campbell elected Hull and East Yorkshire mayor

The former boxer, an Olympic gold medallist, says he is "truly humbled and honoured" to be elected.

www.bbc.co.uk

An unlikely addition to the team, I wonder how many more minor celebs he will attract?

 

[birthofanorange]

To be clear
I you saying Pakistani rape gangs don't exist?

Where did you read that, so we can all be clear as well?

 

[BBassic]

I guess that’s the hope but it might be that they simply blame the government I. The same way they say Brexit only failed because of not doing it properly and people will lap it up.

They will definitely blame Govt.

 

[Is it PotG?]

Perhaps, by the time of the next election, the charlatans of Reform will have screwed up the councils they are now running so badly, that this mid term spike never translates into a long term GE spike. Or maybe I'm just overly optimistic.

The public aren't buying the hollow Labour rhetoric soundbites of inherited, legacy, neglect, 14 years and black hole so I doubt it.

 

[pocketseagull]

Fully expect Reform to spin something along the lines of 'now we have limited local power we can see the situation is even worse than expected and impossible to get any kind of funding from established parties. We need a Reform government now more than ever.' Sprinkle in some dog whistle racism to flavour.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Genuinely interested to know why Labour are worse right now. Once in power they realised things were more screwed as the Tories did a great job at hiding it. Given your aim is to get back into Europe then I suggest you might be best off joining the Labour Party, getting involved and try to make them change direction. If people split between parties of the centre/left then Reform are far more likely to win. I would suggest this would make rejoining Europe quite a lot less likely!

I'll caveat this response with I am not a supporter of any particular party.

The problem Labour have is that they've achieved none of the things they promised in the election last year - in fact they've reneged against some of the promises. They promised hope of a growing economy and creating jobs. To use my own personal situation, I was made redundant Feb 2024 due to the 'cost of living crisis' under the previous Tory government. Plenty of jobs available at the time but also hundreds of candidates per role. Labour come to power with the promise of no more taxes and one of the first things they did was increase employer NIC payments - the job market vacancies shrunk over night - literally loads of new roles were pulled. I was in the process of final negotiations around two jobs which were pulled from under my feet - reason being, and I quote directly from one of those employers "we're unable to hire because of the extra costs we now incur for our current employees". As a so called party of the worker Labour created an employment vacuum.

Parties like Reform of course don't have to worry, currently, about their promises. They are a populist party BUT it means people divert to them when the governing party - whatever it's colour - make things worse for people. Labour have most definitely done that. Labour knew things were screwed before the election - the leader of the opposition gets confidential briefing papers on everything from the economy to defence - they must to have had a good idea what the situation really was - yet they made promises they knew they could keep despite being one of only two parties that could form a government.

I haven't nor would I vote for Reform but I fully understand why voters would vote for a party that isn't lying Labour, racist far right Conservatives and as weak as dishwater Liberals. Don't even get me started on the Greens *** cough *** i360.

 

[birthofanorange]

Fully expect Reform to spin something along the lines of 'now we have limited local power we can see the situation is even worse than expected and impossible to get any kind of funding from established parties. We need a Reform government now more than ever.' Sprinkle in some dog whistle racism to flavour.

Yep, a carbon copy of 'blame Biden' for everything. It's so damn obvious.

 

[nevergoagain]

Which ones do you like? Interested to know so we can look at whether they are even feasible and how they could possibly be achieved.

Saying things like “cutting 50 billion from welfare bill” does not count unless they say how. Are they cutting pensions or something else?

I'd never seen it before but at a very quick glance:
Deport foreign criminals - The current 1yr sentence level is ridiculous when you look at the state of our justice system and the paltry suspended sentences some get.
End Student dependency visas - Do many UK citizens take their whole family with them if they go and study abroad ?, it's just not needed.
Abolish IR35 rules - Took away so much from contractors. I know there will be many on here who disagree but this if you got caught in it you lost all the benefits of being a ltd company but received none of the employee benefits.
Sentencing review - Needs a major overhaul and to keep offenders off the streets.
Will need then to increase detention spaces by 10k - I'd suggest even that is too few

That's 5 and at first glance there look to be others that I'd agree with but would need to see more about them and then there are a lot of disagree with or are just unachievable.