I think you'll find reform voters view that as rhetorical question!!
[News] Nigel Farage and Reform
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- Aug 8, 2005
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There isn’t one party that has policies that I entirely agree with.
But Reform ticks more than the others right now. Also the others have all failed so why not try something new? It can’t get worse? If you’re historically a Tory voter but can’t stomach them after last time where else can you go? Labour/Lib Dems and Greens are miles off it.
Here is their policy doc.
I couldn’t vote for them this time as the elections were cancelled.
If you keep probing you will probably find that the answer is 42.
Which ones do you like? Interested to know so we can look at whether they are even feasible and how they could possibly be achieved.
Saying things like “cutting 50 billion from welfare bill” does not count unless they say how. Are they cutting pensions or something else?
- Apr 5, 2014
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That felt very Trumpian. We shouldn't be surprised. But now the right wing media will become more emboldened. Don't think they have changed, they were waiting their day.
In Durham Council there may well be folk working on those initiatives. He has chosen to single them out as pariahs with language he can get away with. But the toxic undertones were there and the cackling crowd. Textbook. Those are probably honest hard working folk who may have families, now open to being targeted beyond his rhetoric by loons who follow him.
Sad day. The only saving grace being that in an election that was a complete open goal, they scored a third of the vote. So for every one who supports them there are two that don't.
- Jul 10, 2003
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I don't believe there's ever a party that voters agree with all policies. I can read their policy doc, but what policies was it that sold reform to you ? Maybe the top couple and why. Or was it just 'I want to try something new and see what happens ?'
Beacuse if you're a 'traditional' Tory voter, ie prior to Brexit/Johnson, I would think that Starmer's Labour is far closer to 'one nation conservatism' than Farage's Reform policy wise. Unless it was the rosette colour you meant by 'traditional'
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Highfields Seagull
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The question isn't which party has policies that you entirely agree with. I suspect no one agrees with all the policies of any given party.
The question is 'which specific Reform policies sold that party to you?'.
To be fair to him, he doesn't work from home much - he's usually flying to & from the USA.
Not really given the elections weren't taking place in Labour strongholds
I wonder if they still have the office space for everyone to be in the office. I am pretty sure that I read the civil service could not fit in the offices remaining. Something like 60% can be in at the same time in some departments. So would the tax payers really want millions more spent on office space rather than services so people can join teams calls all day from a building sitting together rather than in their own homes?
The working from home thing should really give the game away. Farage is Trump’s bitch and Trump hates WFH because his fortune was made in, guess what, commercial property.
Incredible how people here will work themselves up into a lather over a pair of spectacles but vote for a policy direct from the US intended to put hundreds of millions on to the US President’s property portfolio
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
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Reform, formerly known as The Brexit Party, are led by Farage, the man responsible for Brexit.
This policy of leaving the EU has caused UK GDP to fall by 5% p.a. thereby turning a 'Just About Managing' situation into a 'Head Below Water' one. It killed growth under the Tories, it kills growth under Labour. And a terrible by-product is the new phenomenon of illegal boat people, previously negligible before Brexit.
So you tell me how and why Reform - a committed Brexit party with a leader who is a huge advocate of Trump and his policies - is going to work out well for the UK?
If you think things can't get worse then look across the Atlantic. Believe, me, things can and will get a lot worse if Reform are elected.
Either you are incredibly young, early 20s max, or you have acute recency bias.
Were you asleep during the last 15 years?
We left the EU, which you presumably think is great, but you think things are getting worse?
And you presumably blame the last 15 years on the party that has been in charge for less than the last year.
And this justifies throwing in your lot with a bunch of untested grifters, oddballs, nut cases and flag shaggers.
whereas you were quite content with the Tories when they were ruining everything?
I can only assume you are not very interested in, and don't care much about, politics
How many days has Farage turned up to work in Houses of Parliament and Clacton? I suspect this is like his view on free speech where it is great as long as you agree with him. Basically rules are for other people.The working from home thing should really give the game away. Farage is Trump’s bitch and Trump hates WFH because his fortune was made in, guess what, commercial property.
Incredible how people here will work themselves up into a lather over a pair of spectacles but vote for a policy direct from the US intended to put hundreds of millions on to the US President’s property portfolio
- Apr 5, 2014
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Darren Grimes is a shouty man on the internet with no decipherable broadcasting skills. He interviews within an echo chamber and believes that being a homophobic homosexual will somehow endear him to his audience. He will eventually learn. Many years ago I said how anyone could be gay and vote Tory is beyond me. I don't believe that such a statement is valid anymore. But I would say how anyone could be homosexual and support Reform is most definitely beyond my understanding.
That's from literature, they won't know about that!
TomandJerry
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- Oct 1, 2013
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The Lib Dems have won more council seats than the Conservatives
- Apr 5, 2014
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I would blindly assume that they are relatively safe from Reform defections and the Tories are still in tatters.
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
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Their current 330 seats is only 18 less than the combined Tory AND Labour total of 348.
But despite their 72 MPs demanding some level of respect they will still get no airtime because they are not led by a "charismatic" gobshite racist.
Plus Arthur Dent and Ford Prefect left the safe haven of Earth as undocumented migrants on a ship