[News] Nigel Farage and Reform

[BadFish]

Yeah to all that, but 'he tells it like it is'

By wearing tweed to the pub he seems to have ingratiated himself with people who would normally be suspicious of people wearing tweed to the pub.

 

[TomandJerry]

 

[The Antikythera Mechanism]

 

[5Ways Gull]

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Is it Scunthorpe??

 

[WATFORD zero]

Nigel Farage claims Elon Musk was ‘trying to encourage him’ by calling for him to be sacked​

Nigel Farage has claimed Elon Musk was "just trying to encourage" him when he called for him to be sacked as the leader of Reform UK. The row erupted over Mr Musk's support for jailed far-right activist Tommy Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon.

At the time there had been speculation that Mr Musk could donate $100m to Reform, in what would have been the largest political donation in British history.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-elon-musk-reform-trump-b2732432.html

And there are still people who believe this after all that's happened. Luckily for them, I happen to have some magic beans for sale

 

[carlzeiss]

 

[Pevenseagull]

Tee and indeed hee.

 

[Nobby]

Tee and indeed hee.

And it’s a second hee from me

 

[A1X]

In case anyone needed a reminder that these ****s are still ****s…

 

[SouthSaxon]

In case anyone needed a reminder that these ****s are still ****s…

He really is vile.

Note, again, how there’s only one type of abuse they’re interested in shouting about.

 

[Weststander]

According to pollsters they’re heading for a blinding local elections, largely at the expense of the Tories but Labour too. As the LibDems have often done, also Corbyn, they can promise the earth … reinstatement of WFA for all, £20,000 personal allowance, reducing energy bills by £500 per household, end NHS waiting lists.

Un-costed unicorns. Scooping the votes of millions of people who can’t be arsed to think deeply about it.

 

[Gwylan]

According to pollsters they’re heading for a blinding local elections, largely at the expense of the Tories but Labour too. As the LibDems have often done, also Corbyn, they can promise the earth … reinstatement of WFA for all, £20,000 personal allowance, reducing energy bills by £500 per household, end NHS waiting lists.

Un-costed unicorns. Scooping the votes of millions of people who can’t be arsed to think deeply about it.

What would be interesting* is if they win the General Election and then are faced with the choice of implementing all their plans - which would make Liz Truss's brief period in charge look like a bonanza. When interest rates hit 20%, they may be obliged to change course. Or they could quickly face reality and scrap all their pledges and promises. I wonder which they'll go.


* When I say "interesting", I do mean, of course, that it would be bloody awful

 

[TomandJerry]

Reform currently favourite to take Runcorn in their upcoming by election

 

[Thunder Bolt]

According to pollsters they’re heading for a blinding local elections, largely at the expense of the Tories but Labour too. As the LibDems have often done, also Corbyn, they can promise the earth … reinstatement of WFA for all, £20,000 personal allowance, reducing energy bills by £500 per household, end NHS waiting lists.

Un-costed unicorns. Scooping the votes of millions of people who can’t be arsed to think deeply about it.

In a way, I hope they do win some local council seats, as people will realise they are totally unfit to deal with local matters. The potholes will still be there, bins may not get emptied, surgeries not held etc.

Reform did have 10 councillors in Derby, but they all resigned their label of Reform (I can't say membership as they aren't members, but donors).

Reform UK councillors resign in protest over Nigel Farage

A group of councillors in Derbyshire say the party "has lost its sense of direction" under Farage's leadership.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[SouthSaxon]

In a way, I hope they do win some local council seats, as people will realise they are totally unfit to deal with local matters. The potholes will still be there, bins may not get emptied, surgeries not held etc.

Reform did have 10 councillors in Derby, but they all resigned their label of Reform (I can't say membership as they aren't members, but donors).

Reform UK councillors resign in protest over Nigel Farage

A group of councillors in Derbyshire say the party "has lost its sense of direction" under Farage's leadership.

www.bbc.co.uk

Will people realise enough to admit they’re wrong though? We saw with Brexit, and are seeing live with MAGA, how long that can take as people cycle through a process of confirmation bias and outright denial.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Will people realise enough to admit they’re wrong though? We saw with Brexit, and are seeing live with MAGA, how long that can take as people cycle through a process of confirmation bias and outright denial.

A few may, and referring to Brexit, the tide has definitely turned.

 

[SouthSaxon]

A few may, and referring to Brexit, the tide has definitely turned.

It has, but it took years to get there despite the outcomes being obvious even before the vote.

 

[Brian Munich]

A few may, and referring to Brexit, the tide has definitely turned.

I don't think that many who actually voted Brexit will ever admit, either publicy or to themselves, that it was a terrible idea and that they were duped. The main reason opinion polls now show the UK as pro-EU is because of the demographics of Brexit voters. Far more of them will have died since 2016 than remain voters, and the 5-6m people that have come of age in the same time will be overwhelmingly pro-EU.

The independent did a study on this about 7 years ago, in which it was estimated that the pro-Brexit majority was decreasing by 1350 per day based on demographics alone. This would've meant that the UK became pro-remain in Jan 2019, so by now the majority would be over 3m - about 10%.

 

[SouthSaxon]

I don't think that many who actually voted Brexit will ever admit, either publicy or to themselves, that it was a terrible idea and that they were duped. The main reason opinion polls now show the UK as pro-EU is because of the demographics of Brexit voters. Far more of them will have died since 2016 than remain voters, and the 5-6m people that have come of age in the same time will be overwhelmingly pro-EU.

The independent did a study on this about 7 years ago, in which it was estimated that the pro-Brexit majority was decreasing by 1350 per day based on demographics alone. This would've meant that the UK became pro-remain in Jan 2019, so by now the majority would be over 3m - about 10%.

There’s also that percentage who recognise it hasn’t gone well, but swallow the Brexiteer line that it would have worked had we done it right/not let the left sabotage it.

 

[Is it PotG?]

There’s also that percentage who recognise it hasn’t gone well, but swallow the Brexiteer line that it would have worked had we done it right/not let the left sabotage it.

We'll never know.

Had Bercow and Corbyn not thrown their clogs in every 20 minutes.....