[News] Nigel Farage and Reform

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

The good ol 1970s when the far left fringes were at their most vociferous and our elders persistently warned us, the Communists are taking over. Che posters in every student dorm and all that. Here in Germany, a member of the Red Army Faction who's been on the run since those times had their collar felt and lifted in Berlin just last year. Like a good lefty, hiding out in a dingy Kreuzberg flat. Another is still unaccounted for and wanted for questioning.

There was a red under the bed.
Well mostly in the bed.
Thousands of beds.

Mrs T says he now looks like someone's aunty:

 

[AZ Gull]

There was a red under the bed.
Well mostly in the bed.
Thousands of beds.
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Mrs T says he now looks like someone's aunty:


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Was that second picture taken when he was in a gondola?

 

[bazbha]

It's a common trait with far right parties and other loony fringe groups. They generally all hate each other, the infighting spills over, they then implode and splinter into further parties and fringe groups. Then repeat. The National Front blew up. BNP the same. UKIP, BF and other smaller oddball parties - they've all followed the pattern.

I think this post is very telling. In the past lunatics like the National Front and the BNP were quite rightly known as Far Right as their views were repulsive. Now if you vote Reform or UKIP etc you're known as Far Right by some. Just demonstrates how ridiculous the term has become.

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

I think this post is very telling. In the past lunatics like the National Front and the BNP were quite rightly known as Far Right as their views were repulsive. Now if you vote Reform or UKIP etc you're known as Far Right by some. Just demonstrates how ridiculous the term has become.

Not really considering the rhetoric spouted by reform and UKIP. It’s racist and targets minorities using the excuse of ‘protecting our borders’. Putin is pissing himself laughing.

 

[lawros left foot]

I think this post is very telling. In the past lunatics like the National Front and the BNP were quite rightly known as Far Right as their views were repulsive. Now if you vote Reform or UKIP etc you're known as Far Right by some. Just demonstrates how ridiculous the term has become.

Not many of these NF policies that aren’t now only Reform/UKIP but Conservative Party policies.

 

[Peteinblack]

There was a red under the bed.
Well mostly in the bed.
Thousands of beds.
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Mrs T says he now looks like someone's aunty:


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Holding back the years NOT!

 

[Peteinblack]

I think this post is very telling. In the past lunatics like the National Front and the BNP were quite rightly known as Far Right as their views were repulsive. Now if you vote Reform or UKIP etc you're known as Far Right by some. Just demonstrates how ridiculous the term has become.

Not really - many of their attitudes and policies are pretty much the same; still targeting immigrants and other minorities as the cause of the economic and social problems endured by many working-class people, rather than blaming Capitalism or the mega-rich.

The Hard Right also call people 'Left-wing' or 'Commie' indiscriminately - when Rishi Sunak was denounced as being 'a Leftie' by Lord Cruddas (a Boris Johnson appointee in the House of Lords), and Liz Truss, the intended insult becomes meaningless.

Many Republicans in the US are opposed to an NHS because they view it as 'Communist' - tax-funded State-control over people's health, medical treatment and bodies (although they're quite happy to exercise such control over women's reproductive autonomy and right-to-choose regarding unwanted pregnancies).

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I think this post is very telling. In the past lunatics like the National Front and the BNP were quite rightly known as Far Right as their views were repulsive. Now if you vote Reform or UKIP etc you're known as Far Right by some. Just demonstrates how ridiculous the term has become.

 

[Algernon]

Holding back the years NOT!

Clothes too tight to mention

 

[TomandJerry]

Reform set for another MP?

"Labour had a majority of 14,696 in the Cheshire constituency at the general election, with 53% of the vote. Reform UK were in second place (18%), and the Conservatives in third place (16%).

But the first byelection poll from the constituency, out this morning, suggests Reform UK are on course to win"

 

[lawros left foot]

I be been thinking about this


As well as the Tories,Reform, UKIP. Starmers Labour have now adopted nearly all these policies.
Tough on immigration, refusing to do the sensible thing and rejoin the EU, more prisons to be built ( eventually), there aren’t any communists left to fight, and they are cutting overseas aid to build up the Armed Forces.


Looks very much to me like the hard right has won.

 

[jcdenton08]

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I be been thinking about this


As well as the Tories,Reform, UKIP. Starmers Labour have now adopted nearly all these policies.
Tough on immigration, refusing to do the sensible thing and rejoin the EU, more prisons to be built ( eventually), there aren’t any communists left to fight, and they are cutting overseas aid to build up the Armed Forces.


Looks very much to me like the hard right has won.

I think this is a very simplistic comparison.

In fairness, immigration needs addressing. Open borders are unsustainable, most moderates agree on this according to the polls, it’s certainly not an exclusively right wing cause célèbre.

As for “refusing to do the sensible thing and rejoin the EU” they simply don’t have a mandate to do that. I’d love us to rejoin the EU, but if the government, any government were to unilaterally move forward with this, it would be the death of their government and fail anyway. Then there’s the whole issue of whether the EU can even offer us agreeable terms to rejoin.

More prisons to be built? I don’t see the issue? Our prisons are full, we need more space to house dangerous offenders. The government want to keep people out of prison because they are expensive, and low risk offenders are usually better off in society. But they’re so full now that actual dangerous criminals have seen early release due to overcrowding. This isn’t on.

As for our armed forces, in the prior decades of relative peace and stability in Europe, we’ve seen defence spending repeatedly slashed. Now we (Europe broadly) are in a period of great tension with Russia, the higher ups are looking at our readiness and bricking it. The issue isn’t the increase in defence spending, but rather the death by a thousand cuts it has suffered in the last 20 years, mostly under the Tories.

 

[Springal]

I wonder how many on here proudly supporting Reform will comment on this ?

 

[loz]

Now , I know I am a pinko, left wing commie ( voted Lib Dem last election ) but who on earth looks at reform , their leader, the current MPs the whole party structure the all over the place policy’s and thinks “ that’s the party for me”

As Mr Lee once commented “ it’s like shitting in you hotel bed as a protest, then realising you then have to sleep in that shitted bed” just look at the way Clacton has been abandoned by its grifter of an MP.

 

[schmunk]

I wonder how many on here proudly supporting Reform will comment on this ?

Whilst one may disagree with his politics, it's hard to argue that Hitler wasn't a brilliant and inspiring rabble-rouser.

 

[SouthSaxon]

Whilst one may disagree with his politics, it's hard to argue that Hitler wasn't a brilliant and inspiring rabble-rouser.

Repeating it doesn’t make it sound any better.

 

[schmunk]

Repeating it doesn’t make it sound any better.

Donald Trump is also brilliant at inspiring people; similarly Ol' Vlad Putin.

As is @Bozza*





* Johnson.

 

[sussex_guy2k2]

A friend was telling me about a mutual connection, a heating engineer we know who’s lifelong Albion. He’s gone all in on Farage, including “Ukraine belongs to Moscow because most Ukrainians speak Russian”. He used to be apolitical. His sauce … youtube, twitter, Farage. Quite frightening how people can fall for Putin/Farage propaganda. I suppose that’s how Mosley/Joyce did it in the 30’s, but through word of mouth, leafleting, meetings, for a short while Rothermere.

I’m currently reading How They Broke Britain, by James O’Brien. I knew a fair bit of the stuff his ilk had gotten away with, but when you’re sitting there reading it in book form, it’s overwhelming just how far we as a country have allowed these scum bags to take us through their intimidation and lying, and how much influence they’ve been able to buy, often illegally, in ways that have negatively impacted Britain. Then again, when you allow the media to be controlled by an increasingly far right group of people, it’s almost inevitable that figures like Farage will scrape through to do even more harm.

 

[sussex_guy2k2]

Whilst one may disagree with his politics, it's hard to argue that Hitler wasn't a brilliant and inspiring rabble-rouser.

He wasn’t. He just had a brilliant PR team and the media behind him.

And once he had power, he scared everyone into following his rule because they became aware of the consequences of not doing so.

Basically the Tories over the past 8 years, just without the genocide.

 

[SouthSaxon]

Donald Trump is also brilliant at inspiring people; similarly Ol' Vlad Putin.

As is @Bozza*





* Johnson.

Yes, but presenting this as an aside to their crimes is an odd stance to take because it implies some level of support or sympathy for those acts.

No doubt Dr Shipman had a good bedside manner with his patients, but I’d question the motives of anyone who said so.