NHS says no to new breast cancer drug Kadcyla

[Norman Baker suck my lozenge]

Oh dear,we're having a discussion about cancer treatments and the hand wringers start throwing muck about,
If and when the NHS is back on track and the elderly in this country are treated with dignity then we should start thinking about foreign aid.you wouldn't borrow £500 to give to someone else would you?so why should the taxpayer.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Oh dear,we're having a discussion about cancer treatments and the hand wringers start throwing muck about,
If and when the NHS is back on track and the elderly in this country are treated with dignity then we should start thinking about foreign aid.you wouldn't borrow £500 to give to someone else would you?so why should the taxpayer.

My 84 year old mother was treated well by the NHS when she collapsed last year. Unfortunately she has dementia, and is in a care home now, but is treated with great dignity and love.
It's there if you want to look for it.

 

[piersa]

I cannot begin to imagine what you went through.

I had major surgery 7 weeks ago and lost part of my small bowel. Recovery is pretty good and the op seems to have been successful. Fingers crossed. I'm left with a temporary stoma, which is not nice but a small price to pay for getting the nasty bits out.

It was 50 years between my first and second encounters with cancer, if the next is another 50 years, that'll be fine by me.

got everything crossed for you

 

[Norman Baker suck my lozenge]

My 84 year old mother was treated well by the NHS when she collapsed last year. Unfortunately she has dementia, and is in a care home now, but is treated with great dignity and love.
It's there if you want to look for it.

That's great,but imagine how many more could enjoy the dignity and love your mother had if money was not been sent out of the country to prop up dictatorships?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

That's great,but imagine how many more could enjoy the dignity and love your mother had if money was not been sent out of the country to prop up dictatorships?

How do you know that they're not? There are some hospital failings & care home failures but that is usually down to human nature rather than money. Such occurences appear in the papers because they are rare. Good hospitals and care homes don't make the headlines.

 

[Norman Baker suck my lozenge]

How do you know that they're not? There are some hospital failings & care home failures but that is usually down to human nature rather than money. Such occurences appear in the papers because they are rare. Good hospitals and care homes don't make the headlines.

If you say so

 

[Creaky]

Oh dear,we're having a discussion about cancer treatments and the hand wringers start throwing muck about,
If and when the NHS is back on track and the elderly in this country are treated with dignity then we should start thinking about foreign aid.you wouldn't borrow £500 to give to someone else would you?so why should the taxpayer.

You seem happy to accept the 'system' where your taxes have paid for the health care for those in the UK though you have no more responsibility for them than you do for anyone born elsewhere in the world. The system works because those who can afford to live outside the system of national 'aid' in terms of health care are, by a combination of legal strictures and moral conviction, net contributors to the system.


The same argument can surely be made on a global scale - as a 'rich' country we are relatively self sufficient requiring little if anything in terms of international aid and assistance - calls for the UK to stop all foreign aid and other types of assistance for those countries, (and their citizens), who are in greater need than we are in order that yet more can be used for our own needs is akin to the rich individual calling for their taxes to be reduced as they can pay for their own health care.

 

[User removed 4]

Aid to refugees concerns me not one little bit,however an extra six months for a woman to have with her children is worth every penny.

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[User removed 4]

Given the choice, I'd rather see £90k go to those 40000 stuck on a mountain in Iraq than giving Doris from Preston another 6 months of life.

W anker