Cowfold Seagull
Fan of the 17 bus
I can see why he needed to view it again, l wouldn't call it "blatant" though.
Yes l do believe that some referees are incompetant, but in no way would l call any of them biased.
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[Football] Michael Oliver
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Yes l do believe that some referees are incompetant, but in no way would l call any of them biased.
Cowfold Seagull
Fan of the 17 bus
I disagree with you. Why do you think defenders often hold their hands together behind their back?
Those are often given.
Maybe he thought 2 wrongs would make a right?We heard you the first time
He has been in charge 17 times. We've won 3 of them. (12 and 2 in the premier league).
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Er, what? The ball could have gone in the net - of course it was an opportunity (just like Murray vs Shef Wed).
His arms may have been further out than Oliver realised - regardless, they got it wrong.
The current law (as adapted following the introduction of VAR and thus not the law when Murray played v Sheff Wed) distinguishes between 'a goal' and 'a goal scoring opportunity'.
A goal scoring opportunity is essentially a chance to shoot. Undav wasn't stopped from shooting, thus 'goal scoring opportunity' wasn't denied.
Because he got the shot away, it then becomes about whether it denies a 'goal'.
Could you please quote from the rules where a goal scoring opportunity has to be a chance to shoot, and not a shot that's already been taken.
As above - I know what happened, so please show where it is not still an opportunity
Would you care to explain how else you would distinguish between 'denying a goal' and 'denying a goal scoring opportunity'?
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Dear Mr Oliver
Thank you for your input to this discussion but we were ideally looking for contributions from those with an understanding of the rules of football.
Best regards
PGMOL
Cowfold Seagull
Fan of the 17 bus
Or those of us biased in our support of the Albion.
Yes:
Denying a goal is when the ball is definitely going into the net. If the handball isn't made, the ball will 100% go in the net.
Denying a goal scoring opportunity is preventing the ball from having the opportunity to go in the net. It may go in, it may not - it is an opportunity.
So from a semantic point of view (which you brought up earlier) the letter of the law definition is met - yesterday's handball prevented a goal scoring opportunity.
And if you want to go with the intention/spirit of the law, rather than letter, it is also met - he deliberately dived with his arms outstretched in an attempt to stop a goal. And saying 'he's about to shoot, therefore it's a red' vs 'he's not about to shoot, he's just shot, therefore it's a yellow', would be very much against the spirit of the game.
Hands up as I am wrong. I got that stat from the Argus last Tuesday. Apologies for misleading.He has been in charge 17 times. We've won 3 of them. (12 and 2 in the premier league).
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But that's because we are shit.He has been in charge 17 times. We've won 3 of them. (12 and 2 in the premier league).
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Oh....hang on...
Dick Damage used to read the Argus.
Eva Petulengro.
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LamieRobertson
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….coaching team chatting about the handball whilst VAR makes its mind up and RDZ is….. (well have a look) 