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McLaren you ******* IDIOT



CHAPPERS

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Jul 5, 2003
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Silent Bob said:
Which one was that?

I thought everyone would have realised Beckham is not the player he was and has been a negative for England for at least the last two years.

His second season in Spain when he was regarded as by far and away their best player.
 




SULLY COULDNT SHOOT

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Gerrards still available isn't he? Right that's right midfield sorted out. Now, lennon was sub coming in for his speed and trickey. beckam - speed? I think not. Pennant speed and trickery? Undoubtedly. No brainer then... beckham to say in the wilderness. however, if Gerrard was to get injured......
 


keaton

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Easy 10 said:
Beckham at right-back ?
What for ? His blistering pace to get forward to support the attacks, or his superb tackling ability ?

Not many right-backs are noted for their speed. He's as good a tackler as Phil Nevile
 




CHAPPERS

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SULLY COULDNT SHOOT said:
Gerrards still available isn't he? Right that's right midfield sorted out. Now, lennon was sub coming in for his speed and trickey. beckam - speed? I think not. Pennant speed and trickery? Undoubtedly. No brainer then... beckham to say in the wilderness. however, if Gerrard was to get injured......

So Beckham goes from the wilderness to starting in place on Gerrard, ahead of Lennon and Pennant?
 




Silent Bob

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ChapmansThe Saviour said:
His second season in Spain when he was regarded as by far and away their best player.
I don't recall him playing consistently in the centre that or any season. He was good that season though, and decent last term.
 


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ChapmansThe Saviour said:
I'm not even talking about in this squad. I'm talking about in general. There is NO way Beckham can be left out of the squad for footballing reasons.

Hands up who would rather have Jenas, SWP or Pennant in the squad ahead of Beckham.....
:wave:
 


Silent Bob

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keaton said:
Not many right-backs are noted for their speed. He's as good a tackler as Phil Nevile
Are you his dad or something?
 




keaton

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Silent Bob said:
He's been alright when not "rotated" or injured, he was excellent last night for example. And to say he was poor for Birmingham is ridiculous. I do not see how you can make such a claim. :nono:

From the stats i looked at the end of last season, he'd put the most amount of crosses in the premeirship around a 100 and had 5 assists. That's pretty poor when Birmingham's forward line was full of good headers of the ball
 


CHAPPERS

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Barnet Seagull said:
In an entirely different system.

SYSTEMS SYSTEMS SYSTEMS.

Can we now ONLY play a holding play, a more attacking midfield player and two out and out wingers of questionable quality?
 


keaton

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Silent Bob said:
Are you his dad or something?

No just someone who watches most Premiership and Real Madrid games and uses the to form an opinion rather than tabloids and idiotic pundits
 




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ChapmansThe Saviour said:
So Beckham goes from the wilderness to starting in place on Gerrard, ahead of Lennon and Pennant?

maybe... lennon and pennant are one type of midfielder... gerrad and beckham are another and gerrad is better because hes faster and has more energy. You put beckham and gerrad in and leave out pennant and lennon then you don't have options to change tactics at right midfield. Obvious.
 


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Silent Bob said:
Pennant and SWP, 100%. Jenas can f*** off. But he doesn't play the same position as Beckham (please no one suggest Beckham in the centre :lolol: ).

Exactly what he said.

Name better midfielders currently than Beckham?

Lampard
Gerrard
Joe Cole
Hargreaves
Carrick
Pennant
Lennon
Scotty Parker (on current form)

Additionally Downing plays left mid which Beckham's never going to, King has worked in the holding role in the middle before and SWP has potential and offers an option. What he really needs is to leave Chelski and get back to playing regular football.

If everyone's fit (which granted they're not currently) I make that 11 players Beckham has in front of him and rightly so.
 


Silent Bob

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keaton said:
No just someone who watches most Premiership and Real Madrid games and uses the to form an opinion rather than tabloids and idiotic pundits
Well to be honest if that is what has led you to the conclusion that David Beckham is still good enough, that he can play central or holding midfield, or right back (!!!) I'd rather you DIDN'T form your own opinions.
 




CHAPPERS

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Anyone here seen Beckham play recently or are people just dismissing him as they've seen the others more?
 


Silent Bob

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ChapmansThe Saviour said:
Anyone here seen Beckham play recently or are people just dismissing him as they've seen the others more?
I've seen him play loads of games for Real Madrid (not this season obviously as he's on the bench) and every England game. :)
 
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CHAPPERS

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Silent Bob said:
I've seen him play loads of games for Real Madrid (not this season obviously as he's on the bench) and every England game. :)

Do you think he performed any worse than Lampard or Gerrard in the world cup?
 


Silent Bob

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ChapmansThe Saviour said:
Do you think he performed any worse than Lampard or Gerrard in the world cup?
Gerrard was alright, not great. Beckham and Lampard were not good.
 




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ChapmansThe Saviour said:
Do you think he performed any worse than Lampard or Gerrard in the world cup?

Lampard was quite dreadful but I'd have him in central midfield before Beckham every day and twice on Sundays.












Even if he'd lost a leg. :jester:
 


Stumpy Tim

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Silent Bob said:
I've seen him play loads of games for Real Madrid (not this season obviously as he's on the bench) and every England game. :)

On TV or live?? Because I've just read your "opinions" & I've never read more CACK in all my life.

I went to the World Cup, and Beckham (when actually watching live) was better than both Lampard & Gerrard. He was our biggest threat in terms of setting up goals, and never EVER EVER stopped running.... he turned me from hating the bloke to being a big fan...

Sounds to me like you're a Tabloid lover... "Beckham was shit" blah blah blah.

To me, McLarens 1st England squad was the first picked by Max Clifford, and it's a shame McLaren isn't strong enough to get his GINGER head out of the clouds
 


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