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Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
59,656
The Fatherland
The music of REM. There was a bloke once just answering questions on REM, but there were lots of questions not related to their music/albums which I struggled with.
:thumbsup: A band I like but sadly never got to see.
 


Guy Fawkes

The voice of treason
Sep 29, 2007
8,205
So it would be 1, then.

I'd struggle with that to be fair.
No, it would be none potted using both my examples

The frame could be over without the winner of the frame even playing a shot if the person breaking off were to miss the reds in the pack 3 times in a row, (providing the referee had warned them that they need to hit a red ball on theit 3rd shot or forfeit the frame)
 


Guy Fawkes

The voice of treason
Sep 29, 2007
8,205
Technically none if the opponent fouls 3 times with a ball on and is not snookered:

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That's the rule i was trying to remember and made mention of in my earlier answer, i knew about the 3 missing in a row, it was the clear sight part of the rule that i was struggling to remember but knew there was something about turning down an easier shot so that bit makes more sense (been a very long time since i last played or watched snooker)
 




jcdenton08

Enemy of the People
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Oct 17, 2008
10,722
I’d be very strong on Jonathan Creek, Alan Partridge or The X Files. Try me, I promise I won’t cheat ;)
 


Gwylan

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Jul 5, 2003
31,341
Uffern






Gwylan

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Jul 5, 2003
31,341
Uffern
I know you've been on University Challenge, have you ever done/been tempted by Mastermind?
I was. But it was very embarrassing. I completely froze on my specialist subject. I chose something really stupid (the complete works of Shakespeare, which is such a vast field) but my first three choices were all rejected because they'd been done before or because they were related to my job and I chose wildly. TBF to Mastermind, they did ring me and ask me if I wanted to change my mind as it was such a big topic but I'd already spent a couple of weeks reading and re-reading every play, so I said no.

But once I was in the black chair my mind went blank and questions I could have answered at home were mysteries to me. I scored a pitiful 6 on that road. For the general knowledge, I went into the zone and scored a respectable total of 22 at the end, only four behind the winner. So, it was a respectable showing in the end.

El Presidente was in the audience, witnessing my humiliation, fortunately not too many people seem to have seen it
 


Lenny Rider

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Sep 15, 2010
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I’d be very strong on Jonathan Creek, Alan Partridge or The X Files. Try me, I promise I won’t cheat ;)
What do Alan and Dave Clifton both class as a crime?

Who got shot on the last KNKY?

Corrie's Ian Puleston-Davies appeared as Alan's nemisis from school, but what was his character name?

What was the added extra to Michael's 'cup of beans'?


There you go...........

I expect 4 Phoenix Nights questions in return :thumbsup:
 






Brovion

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Jul 6, 2003
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I was. But it was very embarrassing. I completely froze on my specialist subject. I chose something really stupid (the complete works of Shakespeare, which is such a vast field) but my first three choices were all rejected because they'd been done before or because they were related to my job and I chose wildly. TBF to Mastermind, they did ring me and ask me if I wanted to change my mind as it was such a big topic but I'd already spent a couple of weeks reading and re-reading every play, so I said no.

But once I was in the black chair my mind went blank and questions I could have answered at home were mysteries to me. I scored a pitiful 6 on that road. For the general knowledge, I went into the zone and scored a respectable total of 22 at the end, only four behind the winner. So, it was a respectable showing in the end.

El Presidente was in the audience, witnessing my humiliation, fortunately not too many people seem to have seen it
Blimey, fair play. I'm 'not bad' at quizzes (speaking as one of your occasional colleagues in Lush's all-conquering 'Magnificent Seven' REMF quiz team!), and have occasionally thought of doing Mastermind, but always chickened out.
 


Goldstone1976

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Apr 30, 2013
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Herts
I was. But it was very embarrassing. I completely froze on my specialist subject. I chose something really stupid (the complete works of Shakespeare, which is such a vast field) but my first three choices were all rejected because they'd been done before or because they were related to my job and I chose wildly. TBF to Mastermind, they did ring me and ask me if I wanted to change my mind as it was such a big topic but I'd already spent a couple of weeks reading and re-reading every play, so I said no.

But once I was in the black chair my mind went blank and questions I could have answered at home were mysteries to me. I scored a pitiful 6 on that road. For the general knowledge, I went into the zone and scored a respectable total of 22 at the end, only four behind the winner. So, it was a respectable showing in the end.

El Presidente was in the audience, witnessing my humiliation, fortunately not too many people seem to have seen it
Three things:

The complete works of Shakespeare? WTF were you thinking?!!
With the information you've provided, I doubt it would take very long to find the episode... ;)
16 on the GK round is pretty bloody good (y)

Mine?

Maybe... the wines of the Northern Rhone (or Bordeaux - this too is BIG), or the life and chess games of Bobby Fischer, or the life of Thomas Tompion, or the life and career of Sylvie Guillem? The problem is that I'd do OK on all of them, but probably not well enough to compete with a real nerd who knew only one topic incredibly deeply.
 


Pevenseagull

Anti-greed coalition
Jul 20, 2003
19,651
Remember Fred Housego? I recall a comedian saying was it any surprise a taxi driver won Mastermind "Specialist subject?"

"absolutely f***ing everything" :lolol:

ITV did an episode of 'After They Were Famous' with Free Housego part of which involved him doing the pub quiz in The Beach Tavern in Pevensey Bay.

It went to a tie breaker and I beat him (the largest bird of prey is the Andean condor).
 




Official Old Man

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Aug 27, 2011
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Brighton
Didn't they have a person on who was the go to person for questions on that subject. So they phoned the contestant to set the questions for themselves.
 


Brovion

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Didn't they have a person on who was the go to person for questions on that subject. So they phoned the contestant to set the questions for themselves.
Almost. A man wanted to do Gustav Mahler as his specialist subject. So the BBC contacted the Mahler Appreciation Society and asked them if they could recommend a Mahler expert who could set the questions. They said yes and recommended ..... the prospective contestant! He was honest enough to admit it so he never got to set his own questions.
 


Papak

Not an NSC licker...
Jul 11, 2003
1,920
Horsham
In normal play surely it's 20, 10 reds, 10 blacks. That's the first time you get past 74 which is > half of 147 available
This incorrect on so many levels.

Firstly there are 15 reds in play at the start of a frame and there is no need to pot a colour after a red.

15 x Reds = 1 point each
Yellow = 2
Green = 3
Brown = 4
Blue = 5
Pink = 6

No need pot pot the final black if one player is >7 points ahead so:

Player 1 pots 15 reds with no colours and the final yellow = 17 points

Player 2 pots Green, Brown and Blue = 12 points

Player 1 pots the pink to lead 23 to 12 and wins

There might be a more elegant way to do it for slightly less points but this is the general principle.
 


Papak

Not an NSC licker...
Jul 11, 2003
1,920
Horsham
A Google search yielded the following:

16 - 8 is the lowest possible score in snooker!! However, unlikely and outrageous- its possible a player could pot all 15 reds in one shot, but go in off. 4 - 0. The opponent could then pot Yellow, Green, Blue and pink, with the other guy just getting the brown.
 




Guy Fawkes

The voice of treason
Sep 29, 2007
8,205
A Google search yielded the following:

16 - 8 is the lowest possible score in snooker!! However, unlikely and outrageous- its possible a player could pot all 15 reds in one shot, but go in off. 4 - 0. The opponent could then pot Yellow, Green, Blue and pink, with the other guy just getting the brown.
0 - 12 surely ??

Foul from break (missing all the reds) 0-4, (opponent asks for ball to be replaced if ended in a snooker - extrememly unlikely as they would make them play from there) opponent then misses the reds in the pack again (0-8) and again ends in a snookered position , the opponent again asks for it to be replaced (again extremely unlikely), and the ref warns the player they will forfeit the frame if they miss again, and they proceed to miss once more and loses the frame with the score 0-12
 


5Ways Gull

È quello che è
Feb 2, 2009
931
Fiveways, Brighton
This incorrect on so many levels.

Firstly there are 15 reds in play at the start of a frame and there is no need to pot a colour after a red.

15 x Reds = 1 point each
Yellow = 2
Green = 3
Brown = 4
Blue = 5
Pink = 6

No need pot pot the final black if one player is >7 points ahead so:

Player 1 pots 15 reds with no colours and the final yellow = 17 points

Player 2 pots Green, Brown and Blue = 12 points

Player 1 pots the pink to lead 23 to 12 and wins

There might be a more elegant way to do it for slightly less points but this is the general principle.
Ok I misunderstood the question. I was thinking in terms of how quickly from the start of a frame can you leave your opponent needing snookers
 


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