[Albion] Marseille fans

[Colonel Mustard]

Yes, I agree. Daft to throw things.

Quick and easy question for you. Do you reckon the guy would have been arrested if he'd held it aloft and not thrown it?

It's not an easy question. I don't know. As I said, policing is all about assessing a situation.

 

[TomandJerry]

Yes, I agree. Daft to throw things.

Quick and easy question for you. Do you reckon the guy would have been arrested if he'd held it aloft and not thrown it?

That's basically the crux of the situation, if not then it'd have been the same as the French fans. Had he still been arrested then I agree there would have been differences

 

[Couldn't Be Hyypia]

Ooh you've done it now. PROBES little helpers will be gunning for you. Simply not allowed.

But yes, totally agree with your post. Shame that he can't, but it's been like that for many years unfortunately.

 

[Horses Arse]

It's not an easy question. I don't know. As I said, policing is all about assessing a situation.

It is an easy question to answer - he'd have been arrested whether he'd chucked it or not. The chucking argument is used by some to justify him being singled out and the marseille lot not. Weak and bizarre argument to support the guys arrest when far worse behaviour is allowed at the other end.

The real issue is about what is an easy target and what isn't. Brighton fans are an easy target, home and away. Marseille aren't.

Police, club, some other albion fans support that approach. My considered opinion is that it is all a bit shitty and should be challenged.

That's basically the crux of the situation, if not then it'd have been the same as the French fans. Had he still been arrested then I agree there would have been differences

But it's illegal to bring into the ground isn't it, so he'd have been arrested.

Oh yes, plus he's an easy target so police, stewards and other albion fans can take action without fear.

 

[Horses Arse]

I was searching for the yawn emoji earlier but couldn't find it. Will look again, hope the licker one is nearby!

 

[Justice]

Any decent lawyer would get the Albion fan off the hook as no action was taken against Marseille fans.

 

[TomandJerry]

Any decent lawyer would get the Albion fan off the hook as no action was taken against Marseille fans.

Perhaps, but what a absolute nightmare of a situation for the chap who was arrested, week before Christmas.

I don't even know if he's been released on bail or still in a cell?

 

[Justice]

Perhaps, but what a absolute nightmare of a situation for the chap who was arrested, week before Christmas.

I don't even know if he's been released on bail or still in a cell?

He would have been out that evening I wouldn’t worry.

 

[TomandJerry]

He would have been out that evening I wouldn’t worry.

I have limited knowledge on how much things work, I assume released on bail? Or what... A day in court is arranged? Interviews?

 

[Colonel Mustard]

It is an easy question to answer - he'd have been arrested whether he'd chucked it or not. The chucking argument is used by some to justify him being singled out and the marseille lot not. Weak and bizarre argument to support the guys arrest when far worse behaviour is allowed at the other end.

The real issue is about what is an easy target and what isn't. Brighton fans are an easy target, home and away. Marseille aren't.

Police, club, some other albion fans support that approach. My considered opinion is that it is all a bit shitty and should be challenged.

But it's illegal to bring into the ground isn't it, so he'd have been arrested.

Oh yes, plus he's an easy target so police, stewards and other albion fans can take action without fear.

No. You're mixing up justice with policing. Two quite different things.

I've said why I think the police behaved differently towards the two incidents. To me, it's obvious.

 

[Colonel Mustard]

Any decent lawyer would get the Albion fan off the hook as no action was taken against Marseille fans.

That's not a good legal argument. "But offisher, that urm, Jimmy Tarbuck washn't arreshted for drink-driving, Sho, er, w-why me? Hic!"

 

[Justice]

That's not a good legal argument. "But offisher, that urm, Jimmy Tarbuck washn't arreshted for drink-driving, Sho, er, w-why me? Hic!"

Maybe although in your thought process the scary looking guy gets away with it. Because eh he looks more scary.

 

[Horses Arse]

No. You're mixing up justice with policing. Two quite different things.

I've said why I think the police behaved differently towards the two incidents. To me, it's obvious.

OK. So we agree that he was arrested because the situation was easier to deal with when it concerns brighton fans. Which is the real issue here, and it's shit.

It's very sad to see fans jumping in to support that happening in my opinion.

No idea why the luzzing aspect was targeted as justification initially. Very odd.

 

[TomandJerry]

OK. So we agree that he was arrested because the situation was easier to deal with when it concerns brighton fans. Which is the real issue here, and it's shit.

It's very sad to see fans jumping in to support that happening in my opinion.

No idea why the luzzing aspect was targeted as justification initially. Very odd.

Because that's the reason for the arrest, according to reports.

I agree though, the French fans should have been punished, or maybe the club docked points from there European position

 

[Stat Brother]

Funny how the beer luzzing narrative at Ajax is still disingenuous.
The fella threw his beer over the divide onto the Ajax fans, as seen by the steward and admitted to by the silly sausage.

This fella actively bought an illegal product into the stadium, for that action there are consequences, no amount of 'but but...' alters that fact.

 

[Horses Arse]

Because that's the reason for the arrest, according to reports.

I agree though, the French fans should have been punished, or maybe the club docked points from there European position

I wasn't getting at you, wasn't intended to anyway with that sentence.

I was referring to mustards earlier post suggesting it was the luzzing that was the problem, not the smoke bomb. That being suggested to differentiate with the marseille fans, when we all know the reason they targeyted the old guy was down to cowardice.

 

[studio150]

Funny how the beer luzzing narrative at Ajax is still disingenuous.
The fella threw his beer over the divide onto the Ajax fans.

This fella actively bought an illegal product into the stadium, for that action there are consequences, no amount of 'but but...' alters that fact.

Not according to some, he was just being a passionate fan.

Whereas most people in this situation read passionate as idiot.

The club and the PL have clearly laid out their position on pyros and there was only ever going to be one outcome in this situation.

 

[Colonel Mustard]

OK. So we agree that he was arrested because the situation was easier to deal with when it concerns brighton fans. Which is the real issue here, and it's shit.

It's very sad to see fans jumping in to support that happening in my opinion.

No idea why the luzzing aspect was targeted as justification initially. Very odd

No, you’ve misunderstood.

The two situations were different. The police at the NS end did what they thought was right in the circumstances. They arrested a man who threw a smoke bomb or flare, whatever, onto the pitch. I can’t criticise that decision.

The police at the South End did what they thought was right in the circumstances. They decided that wading into the crowd to arrest dozens of people who were holding, or had held, flares, would lead to a violent escalation.

Justice? Perhaps not. Good policing? Yes.

 

[el punal]

I thought the other banner said "DOGGERS" which seemed very strange until someone pointed out it was DODGERS. In my defence, it was a little creased where by the second D. The fact I have an opticians appointment after work today is unrelated.

Right, see if you can make out the top line :

J U S T F U

Now the second line :

C K O F F

And the next one :

U D I K

Splendid!

 

[Stat Brother]

Not according to some, he was just being a passionate fan.

Whereas most people in this situation read passionate as idiot.

The club and the PL have clearly laid out their position on pyros and there was only ever going to be one outcome in this situation.

You can't get a ticket without agreeing with the club.