RossyG
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- Dec 20, 2014
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Short of dragging them to a clinic and shoving a needle in their arm, what can be done? The offer is there and a lot simply don’t want it.
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Short of dragging them to a clinic and shoving a needle in their arm, what can be done? The offer is there and a lot simply don’t want it.
Indeed. Unless it is made compulsory there is a real reluctance from large numbers in those groups. That needs to be tackled in order to improve that
crodonilson
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We are still in a perilous situation. When we still see hospitalisation figures, now standing at over 38,000 people, with the number of people still dying with coronavirus, with the number of hospital admissions increasing, this is no time to speak about the relaxation of measures. We have a long way to go.
Agree - not publicly at this stage. The press (just been listening to Sky pressing Patel on lockdown release plans) are now seemingly using this stick to beat the Government - ‘waaa waaa we need to know the plan, why aren’t you telling us’ etc. Simple in my view - I absolutely WOULD expect them to be putting detailed plans in place, but WOULD NOT expect or want them to be publishing them yet as it’ll lead to further non-compliance.
Should simply be saying that detailed plans are being considered, but that they are massively contingent on how the data looks at any point in time so we’re not going to commit to any dates or relaxation at this point.
I feel.much the same. Think the worst thing in the world would be to publish a detailed plan. Would lead to those desperate for an end to this to decide for themselves that if everything is easing by date x which is 3 weeks away we won't bother with the rules so much now
beorhthelm
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- Jul 21, 2003
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there is a delivery plan published. i expect NHS/PHE have a detailed plan that changes daily as plans do. press want a detail schedule so they can report on every deviation.
The flip on this is those desperate will say with no end in sight, what's the point?
Tricky balancing.act. wouldn't enjoy making the decisions
They can talk about the essence of the plan but without specific dates or data points.....no way they can commit to anything at the moment other than commit to reviews of restrictions if the data permits......
crodonilson
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1,820 deaths today, another record breaking and tragic figure, I don't think the lockdown deniers have ever been more comprehensively wrong.
drew
Drew
And if they did they would be continuing to demonstrate that absolute ignorance and arrogance.
Or the desperation of some struggling with mental health issue and the needing to work to pay the mortgage
See. I didn't read that as suggesting people would break rules but that they would just give up
Sussexscots
Fed up with trains. Sick of the rain.
My take also. I believe many are close to a state of 'learned helplessness'. No matter what one does the restrictions keep coming.
if vaccines don't prove to be the panacea we anticipated, what then?
Crikey.
I guess all that Christmas shopping and get togethers are coming home to roost.
beorhthelm
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- Jul 21, 2003
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not sure how they can say there's no spike after Christmas when every graph shows a spike during the week after Christmas. one bit says " we might expect to start seeing the impact of a Christmas spike in the first week of the New Year. This is because the typical incubation period - the time for symptoms of the virus to appear - is, on average, about five days." thats exactly what we see, and then case drop off second week of new year.
That article seems to back up my point about Christmas Shopping.
crodonilson
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In hindsight we went into lockdown in early November too late, really should have been a few weeks earlier to coincide with half term for schools, and given the November lockdown never really made a significant impact on cases and hospitalisations we should not have come out of that lockdown.