loan from man utd

[London Irish]

Let's face it, Chris May could have played when Kuipers got injured and he would have been no worse than Yelldell

Sorry to repeat again a point made by McGhee at the Fans Forum, but we stayed up by one point. A point was earnt at Leeds when Yelldell made an absolutely brilliant save to tip a Gary Kelly shot/lob over the bar. If May had been in goal that day, given his size, I don't think he would have reached it.

I honestly think we can cut McGhee a break on the question of giving youth products opportunities in the first team. Can you think of a Brighton manager that has done better on that score?

 

[Garry Nelson's Left Foot]

I honestly think we can cut McGhee a break on the question of giving youth products opportunities in the first team. Can you think of a Brighton manager that has done better on that score?

Hinshelwood?

 

[Thimble Keegan]

We gained a point at Leeds but also obtained them at home to West Ham & Ipswich but which point kept us up? Answer: All of them.

I know what is said about the excellent Yelldell save and with regards to how May might have dealt with it but we will never know. I might as well say that if Kuipers or Blayney had been in goal they would have caught that shot one handed and launched a counter-attack which would have seen Oatway beat 5 Leeds players before threading a perfect through ball to Knight who
slotted home. Therefore gaining 3 points and not 1 and avoiding the last day scramble to stay up.

We are relegation favourites again and that was always going to be the case whoever we bought in within our budget. I know it is also suicide to fill our team with kids and expect us to stay up and we do need new faces but what we have done is brought in someone elses kid. If he is the "new John Terry" or something then fair enough, but if he is then he would already be
in the Man Yoo first team.

McGhee does have a good record of bringing youth players through and good on him, the only other I can think of is Barry Lloyd...Unluckily for Baz the quality of youth players were not as high as they are currently.

I still think we would can give one of our kids a go and I trust the
Tank/Butters enough to know they would learn valuable experience from him on the pitch. I just would have liked to have seen one of our lads get a punt ahead of some other team's reserve/youth player.

Albion & England forever.

Thimble Keegan
Worthing BHA

 

[NMH]

If he is the "new John Terry" or something then fair enough, but if he is then he would already be
in the Man Yoo first team.

I still think we would can give one of our kids a go and I trust the
Tank/Butters enough to know they would learn valuable experience from him on the pitch. I just would have liked to have seen one of our lads get a punt ahead of some other team's reserve/youth player.

Albion & England forever.

Thimble Keegan
Worthing BHA

With all due respect, I believe you are over-rating both John Terry and Guy Butters here. Terry has done a few good things on the pitch, but I fail to see how he's so outrageously good that it's hard to imagine a better defender. Manure's first team is also just a little difficult to get into, wouldn't you say?

To expect Butters to have such an influence on the professional pitch on a professional day where every move matters, that he can morph his experience over to a new kid as if by magic.... that's expecting a lot. This isn't Harry Potter, where a mystical passage moves objects or people to do the bidding of the chief wizard!

It's an important position that MM wants filled, he knows who he has at his disposal and decides to bring in a loaner. It's a definite move that is a decision of a manager, and that's what he's there to do. I prefer to trust him, before trusting that Hinsh has 'just the lad for the job'.

 

[dwayne]

Sorry to repeat again a point made by McGhee at the Fans Forum, but we stayed up by one point. A point was earnt at Leeds when Yelldell made an absolutely brilliant save to tip a Gary Kelly shot/lob over the bar. If May had been in goal that day, given his size, I don't think he would have reached it.

I honestly think we can cut McGhee a break on the question of giving youth products opportunities in the first team. Can you think of a Brighton manager that has done better on that score?

...by the same token, Dan Harding cost us about 8 points then, a very crude measurement and I totally disagree with Mcghee on this one.

Can't you see the obvious contradiction with this philosophy....Mcghee is saying the TEAM kept the albion up ...the next minute he's stating Yelldell got us a point at Leeds (which is bollocks in itself).........and anyway if anyone did gain us a point at Leeds it was Jonah and butters.

I admire Mcghee's arrogance at times but I also think HE thinks he's smarter than he really is.

 

[London Irish]

...I admire Mcghee's arrogance at times but I also think HE thinks he's smarter than he really is.

Well, I for one would never want to bandy words with him. He has that pretty fearsome combination of intuitive intelligence and forceful charisma that would make it a very unwise move indeed.

I'd be willing to bet very few people in his managerial career have tried to face him down - and people who do, have to work ten times as hard to get back into his good books, as Big Mac has been discovering since April.

 

[Safeway]

He has that pretty fearsome combination of intuitive intelligence and forceful charisma

So THAT'S who you model yourelf on.

Still lots of work to do, I'm afraid.

 

[dwayne]

Well, I for one would never want to bandy words with him. He has that pretty fearsome combination of intuitive intelligence and forceful charisma that would make it a very unwise move indeed.

Hmmmm.

I would say he's a good talker, I'm not sure about this intuitive intelligence thing though?

Forceful Charisma - yes, he's sharp and witty.

But I still think he considers himself a bit of a genius and tries to be a bit clever for his own good sometimes.

Also I admire the way he stuck up for McCammon against Mendoza the other night (like any good manager should) but I can't help but think he went a tad OTT!

 

[London Irish]

Also I admire the way he stuck up for McCammon against Mendoza the other night (like any good manager should) but I can't help but think he went a tad OTT!

No, logging on to NSP and calling him a **** might have been a tad OTT, what he did was fine, the kind of passionate leadership fans love

I'm not sure about this intuitive intelligence thing though?

I still think he considers himself a bit of a genius and tries to be a bit clever for his own good sometimes.

There are 2 schools of thought on this, aren't there? The one that says the tactical switches in formations and player positions ensured that we got the 51pts we needed, and the other that says it hindered our progress to it. I'm firmly in the first camp, but I know that others who post on here are in the second.

It's a debate that will run and run I'm sure over the next 46 games. Looking forward to it

 

[dwayne]

No, logging on to NSP and calling him a **** might have been a tad OTT, what he did was fine, the kind of passionate leadership fans love



There are 2 schools of thought on this, aren't there? The one that says the tactical switches in formations and player positions ensured that we got the 51pts we needed, and the other that says it hindered our progress to it. I'm firmly in the first camp, but I know that others who post on here are in the second.

It's a debate that will run and run I'm sure over the next 46 games. Looking forward to it

good to see you accepting both sides of the argument LI!!

Are you finally learning

 

[London Irish]

Thanks, but I hope you won't be too offended if I say that being congratulated on appropriate messageboard etiquette by you does carry a little sting in the tail

 

[Safeway]

 

[dwayne]

Thanks, but I hope you won't be too offended if I say that being congratulated on appropriate messageboard etiquette by you does carry a little sting in the tail

I'm not talking about appropriate messageboard etiquette, I'm talking about accepting both sides of an argument.

 

[the full harris]

No, logging on to NSP and calling him a **** might have been a tad OTT, what he did was fine, the kind of passionate leadership fans love

it would not only be OTT but also rather pointless, seeing as Brett does not use NSP.

 

[Thimble Keegan]

With all due respect, I believe you are over-rating both John Terry and Guy Butters here. Terry has done a few good things on the pitch, but I fail to see how he's so outrageously good that it's hard to imagine a better defender. Manure's first team is also just a little difficult to get into, wouldn't you say?

To expect Butters to have such an influence on the professional pitch on a professional day where every move matters, that he can morph his experience over to a new kid as if by magic.... that's expecting a lot. This isn't Harry Potter, where a mystical passage moves objects or people to do the bidding of the chief wizard!

It's an important position that MM wants filled, he knows who he has at his disposal and decides to bring in a loaner. It's a definite move that is a decision of a manager, and that's what he's there to do. I prefer to trust him, before trusting that Hinsh has 'just the lad for the job'.

You were putting forward decent arguments but now you appear to be not making much sense.

The Man Yoo defender did do well today though...

Albion & England forever.

Thimble Keegan
Worthing BHA

 

[London Irish]

[BThere are 2 schools of thought on this, aren't there? The one that says the tactical switches in formations and player positions ensured that we got the 51pts we needed, and the other that says it hindered our progress to it. I'm firmly in the first camp, but I know that others who post on here are in the second.

It's a debate that will run and run I'm sure over the next 46 games. Looking forward to it [/B]

Another triumph for McGhee today - converts a forward into a man-marking midfielder and it bottles up a lot of Derby's flair. Another argument in favour of the tactical and positional experimentations he tries.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

I think he picked Leon for this job because of his pace and being able to keep up with/catch up withhim.