Let's have some respect for McGhee

[Race]

Sorry, plain English please.

Well I understood him!!!

 

[The Large One]

Well I understood him!!!

Just re-read it. Does he mean the invertebrate non-entity that is Dwayne?

Jeez, this is embarrassing.

 

[McShane79]

Some of the recent anti-McGhee comments on this board are well out of order.

Whether or not you think he should remain as manager remember this:

1. He gave us the best day out since 1991 and got us promoted.
2. He kept us up against the odds last seasons.
3. He has not walked away from this club, like the 4 big names before him.
4. He's brought in money to the club from player trading.

The club is no worse off now than when he took over. We're closer to Falmer than we were then and we've got great kids coming through. Few managers could have kept things afloat during these 3 troubled seasons like he has.

Whatever happens to him in the future he'll have my respect.

Totally agree. I definitely think he should remain in charge despite what some people have been posting. He has done his best to get in players on no budget, and trying to sell the prospect of an unattractive club to potential new players.

The one he has managed to get hold of in 2006 scores on his debut.

 

[Pavilionaire]

Why do you only focus on the negative? For every 'minus' transfer deal or player-relationship issue against his name, there are several more in the plus column. Also, his record in promoting the Albion from the division below is 100%, so I'm quite satisfied with that.

Er, I said "mixed" transfer dealings, e.g. some good and some bad - how is that "focusing on the negative??

One promotion and one relegation also means that record is mixed, although are these facts too negative for you?

 

[Race]

Just re-read it. Does he mean the invertebrate non-entity that is Dwayne?

Jeez, this is embarrassing.

The one and only!

 

[Icy Gull]

Good constructive comments by someone who is clearly no longer a McGhee fan and makes some fair assessments.

 

[Goodfella]

MM has had my support since he took over, and will continue to do so until the end of the season.

 

[The Large One]

Er, I said "mixed" transfer dealings, e.g. some good and some bad - how is that "focusing on the negative??

One promotion and one relegation also means that record is mixed, although are these facts too negative for you?

The point I was alluding to was that having 'mixed' fortunes appears to be reason enough for you to want to offload him, whereas with others, that would be perfectly good enough to keep him, and that only mitigating circumstances beyond his control should keep him here.

Therefore, I was incinuating that you were putting a negative spin on his record.

 

[London Irish]

Makes you wonder if some of these people would have questioned things between 1995 and 1997.

You are not seriously comparing the effect that McGhee has had on the club to what Archer, Stanley and Bellotti did, are you?

Now for me, this is much more idiotic than someone actually BELIEVING we only train once a week

 

[Uncle Buck]

You are not seriously comparing the effect that McGhee has had on the club to what Archer, Stanley and Bellotti did, are you?

Now for me, this is much more idiotic than someone actually BELIEVING we only train once a week

Hello Steve, it has been a while.

No I am not.

What I am implying is, that in the past the crowds did used to voice their opinions at the manager and so forth. I am wondering with the attitude that many of the vocal pro the manager people have here, of give him more time, would they have said the same thing about Archer and co. After all you have blind faith in the board of both your sporting clubs and attempt to belittle those that think different, so maybe you would have done this, in you had been around, in 1995.

 

[Icy Gull]

It shows how Brighton fans have changed over the years, I remember when we lost at home to Rotherham in 1993, the fans were on the pitch after the game calling for Lloyd to go. I remember the stick he got at Fulham around the same time, when he had to walk past the away end to get to the dug out. Yet McGhee is churning out worse results (and not having to be MD) and gets little stick.

Makes you wonder if some of these people would have questioned things between 1995 and 1997.

Lloyd came in for some very, in retrospect, over the top criticism that stems from the rapid detrioration of the club as it fell from the top flight, saw the sacking of Cattlin by the faceless board of Bedson, followed by the appointment and sacking of Mullery and the behind the scenes shenanigans of Stanley and his cohorts.

Had very little to do with football on the pitch imo

 

[Uncle Buck]

Lloyd came in for some very, in retrospect, over the top criticism that stems from the rapid detrioration of the club as it fell from the top flight, saw the sacking of Cattlin by the faceless board of Bedson, followed by the appointment and sacking of Mullery and the behind the scenes shenanigans of Stanley and his cohorts.

Had very little to do with football on the pitch imo

By the end of with Lloyd the football did for him. The last couple of seasons it had detrioated impressively, in 1992/93 we should have got the play offs but messed it up on the run in and the following year we were dire, with no direction on the pitch and a manager who was never around at training (I believe Hinsh was essentially doing Lloyd's job in the end).

 

[The Large One]

Lloyd had a dual role at the time - team manager AND managing director. He tried focussing on both roles, and ended up doing neither.

Seems barmy in hindsight doesn't it?

 

[Icy Gull]

By the end of with Lloyd the football did for him. The last couple of seasons it had detrioated impressively, in 1992/93 we should have got the play offs but messed it up on the run in and the following year we were dire, with no direction on the pitch and a manager who was never around at training (I believe Hinsh was essentially doing Lloyd's job in the end).

Lloyd was just a pawn in the game though as most could see the club coming apart at the seams as was the Goldstone. Thinking about those days has cheered me up UB, what's going on now bears no comparison to those dark depressing days

 

[Uncle Buck]

Lloyd had a dual role at the time - team manager AND managing director. He tried focussing on both roles, and ended up doing neither.

Seems barmy in hindsight doesn't it?

I do find it interesting that Lloyd now is remember with an element of good will, when you think back to how much hatred there was towards him by the end. I remember Gullseye producing those 'Visionary Dethroned' tee-shirts after he went.

 

[London Irish]

Hello Steve, it has been a while.

No I am not.

What I am implying is, that in the past the crowds did used to voice their opinions at the manager and so forth. I am wondering with the attitude that many of the vocal pro the manager people have here, of give him more time, would they have said the same thing about Archer and co. After all you have blind faith in the board of both your sporting clubs and attempt to belittle those that think different, so maybe you would have done this, in you had been around, in 1995.

I support Dick Knight and the London Irish board because they have both acheived miracles on behalf of their respective fan bases.

Having blind faith in authority is not something I have often been accused of in my life, to be honest. But what the hell, if we train once a week, sure, I'm an establishment lackey

 

[Uncle Buck]

Lloyd was just a pawn in the game though as most could see the club coming apart at the seams as was the Goldstone. Thinking about those days has cheered me up UB, what's going on now bears no comparison to those dark depressing days

But at the time nobody was sad to see the back of him. In certain quarters Belloti was praised for getting rid of him, as at the time nobody had any idea what was going to happen.

For a while under Brady, Saturdays seemed worthwhile again.

 

[Uncle Buck]

I support Dick Knight and the London Irish board because they have both acheived miracles on behalf of their respective fan bases.

Having blind faith in authority is not something I have often been accused of in my life, to be honest. But what the hell, if we train once a week, sure, I'm an establishment lackey

I know nothing about the once a week thing, not my comment that one and I do not believe they are only in once a week. I could believe that they only did ball skills or tactics once a week and the rest was running and weights, but again could not verify it, just at times on the field we look devoid of ideas.

Still next season to plan for.

 

[London Irish]

I could believe that they only did ball skills or tactics once a week and the rest was running and weights, but again could not verify it

Well, if this issue looms particularly large for either you or any other McGhee-outer, remember that Mark McGhee has issued an open invitation for any fan to go and watch training sessions. If you want to find out the facts rather than just speculate in an uninformed manner on a messageboard, then the opportunity is there for you

 

[Uncle Buck]

Well, if this issue looms particularly large for either you or any other McGhee-outer, remember that Mark McGhee has issued an open invitation for any fan to go and watch training sessions. If you want to find out the facts rather than just speculate in an uninformed manner on a messageboard, then the opportunity is there for you

The opportunity might be there, but my employer still likes me to turn up, even if work is out of the question...