Let's catch the scumbag who did this

[Stat Brother]

You may have had such a moment or two from driving too fast around a corner to be on the othe rside of the road but I and no doubt many other on here have not. Please do not label me with your own low driving standards. If the driver had missed the pedestrian and instead banged into the parked cars, this is acceptable to you as no one was injured.

Also why is failing to stop at the scene and accept the consequences not worthy of being a scumbag. Oh I see they are if they were banned drunk or on the phone, but if they weren't this is perfectly acceptable behaviour to you.

Sometimes monochrome is in fact just black and white

Again I responding to the fact the assailant was deserving of a bit of police brutality, by pointing out the potential of a different set of circumstances.

Remember I am a cyclist as well as a driver of 30 years, maximum NCB, the life of mine and my friends weren't worth 5 seconds TWICE last Wednesday.
Had we been hit, would I expect instant justice handed out by the police, no absolutely not.
I'd want the law to run it course and justice to be done.

 

[StonehamPark]

As opposed to causing critical/life threatening injuries....

No excuse, at the very worst he should have stopped and got a lift in the bloody ambulance aswell.

Not having a go at you, but you can see how silly that excuse is.

See my previous posts.
I'm campaigning for this scumbag to get the maximum sentence possible - if everything is as it appears in the video.
I'm the last one on this thread making excuses.

The only slight chance that the driver isn't a total scumbag who deserves near-death themselves, is if they are hooning it straight to the hospital as his/her passenger is in anaphylactic shock and are moments away from certain death. Or similar scenario.

Again, the only slight 'let off' for the driver is if they have a passenger in critical need of medical attention.
Don't get me wrong, that wouldn't be a let off but a couple of years off their sentence.

 

[Wrong-Direction]

It's quite unusual to release something like this before a trial, because it risks giving the perpetrator information that might be useful to him or her in coming up with a cover story. The decision was taken in this case because- as I think you'll agree- it's sufficiently shocking to make most viewers appreciate the horrendous nature of what happened. It might just persuade somebody who could have been keeping quiet to come forward.

It was also deemed polite to discuss this with the injured gentleman prior to its release to the media, and as you can imagine, he's been rather busy in hospital lately.

Fair enough[emoji106]

 

[Ludensian Gull]

It is believable when you think what may have been going through her mind. She may have been overcome by fear and dread of the sight that was to come. Nobody knows how they will react to such a scene. She is also a victim, be it a much lesser one. She won't erase this memory easily.

In hindsight you are probably right, it just seemed a strange reaction when I first saw it.

 

[Acker79]

Has anyone actually said this guy should get a kicking from the police, or just that they are impressed by police restraint because for a lot of people, such behaviour would anger them so much they would want to inflict violence against someone who speeds so recklessly in such an area then doesn't stop after knocking someone 9 feet into the air?


I am not going to make any attempt to defend this guy as not a scumbag, but I've been reading this thread and remembering all the times we've had discussions about speeding, speed cameras, etc. There are often plenty of people in those threads openly talking about times they have sped. Making arguments for why they should be allowed to, why they can't go slower (it's down hill!).

Everyone in those threads who talked about speeding viewed themselves as being in complete control of their vehicle, completely capable and safe and not in need of these nanny-state, politically correct, socialist speed limits. And there is often support for speeders over speed cameras. Would we all call every driver that speeds scumbag? Or will we start mitigating. Well, it's not the speeding, it's the corner. It's not the speeding, it's that it was in that area of town. It's not the speeding, it's the people around...

I imagine almost all of those people who brag about speeding, defiantly claiming they are better drivers, were no where near as in control as they believed themselves to be. I imagine the driver in the video felt they were in complete control, too. I also suspect that some (some) people who would be affronted by the claim they have had a moment would be surprised to realise they probably have, without realising it because they thought they were safer and more in control than they think they are.

A lot of people don't seem to realise the most dangerous thing they will do in any given day is get behind the wheel of a car, even if they don't drive like a scumbag.

 

[Acker79]

The only mitigating factor is if the driver was in a critical/life-threatening situation.

And for the two weeks since the accident, what mitigation is there for not at some point saying 'oh, while I was speeding here fearing for my/my companion's life I hit someone'? (I know you're not defending the guy, just it was the most recent post with this mittigation to quote)

 

[atfc village]

I am lost for words.

 

[Mr Putdown]

I see most people are assuming the driver was male.

 

[Wrong-Direction]

I see most people are assuming the driver was male.

Good point, I remember seeing an equally terrible video of a women driving off a couple of years back on a crossing? When the guy behind caught up with her she acted like nothing had happened!

 

[symyjym]

I see most people are assuming the driver was male.

I haven't but if we could place a bet I would put good money on it.

 

[symyjym]

Good point, I remember seeing an equally terrible video of a women driving off a couple of years back on a crossing? When the guy behind caught up with her she acted like nothing had happened!

You mean this one?

https://youtu.be/6-4TYhkx1CU

 

[StonehamPark]

And for the two weeks since the accident, what mitigation is there for not at some point saying 'oh, while I was speeding here fearing for my/my companion's life I hit someone'? (I know you're not defending the guy, just it was the most recent post with this mittigation to quote)

Please read post #144 and ALL of my previous posts in this thread.
Every post of mine is emphatically endorsing how much of a scumbag the driver is.

 

[Phat Baz 68]

I would guess that this vehicle was almost certainly stolen as it was a tiny little Fiat going hell for leather down a street and round a corner not caring who or what it happened or what happened.
Unless everyone bands together and tries to catch this/these scumbag/s then I'm pretty sure you will find whoever it was may well get away with it.
Come on the people of Brighton and Hove if you were there or saw anything , please come forward, that might have been your Dad/ Grandad/ Husband !!
This sickened me to the stomach watching this, and I'm a hardened A&E worker too.
This/these vile inhuman vermin man or woman needs locking up for a very very very long #utterlysickened

 

[pb21]

Can you honestly say you haven't driven in an equally reckless fashion?
You've never flown round a corner, taken an important call, pushed into a gap that wasn't there etc etc.

Have you watched the video?!

Surely there is no way you can think others have "driven in an equally reckless fashion"?!

 

[Phat Baz 68]

You mean this one?

https://youtu.be/6-4TYhkx1CU

What an absolute c**t

 

[Shropshire Seagull]

Some great debate on here - top work NSC

I'm reassured that several are very clear about what should be done if you happen to be first on scene - DR-ABC is the now recognised approach for what they call emergency first aid.
However, and this is an observation more than a criticism [as was my initial post], there are many who clearly don't know [or have questioned] what is the correct thing to do.

Yes, I accept that in real time, some people will "freeze" with shock / disbelief / etc. but to stand and do nothing, IMHO, is not really good enough. I also belive that if you have had the training you will be much more likely to get stuck in with the knowledge that you just might be saving someones life. Better to have tried and failed, then never to have tried at all. I know what I would like to happen if I were the unfortunate victim.

At my last emergency first aid refresher it was delivered by Jenny Stretton [ex-Wolves 1st team physio and now FA England u18 physio] who has a wealth of knowledge in this subject. She confirmed that 46 of the 96 Hillsborough victims could have been saved simply by raising the unconscious person's chin which would have cleared the tongue from blockin the airway - so simple but because St John's were so overstretched these people died unnecessarily.

Another point that has been mentioned is the risk of being sued in case you did something that made matters worse. Jenny gets really cross with this one - she assures us she has never heard a UK case for anyone being sued for trying to help someone. She does emphasise that this is only SO LONG AS you are following the recognised DR-ABC. Edna has already covered this off in good detail, but essentially, preserving life takes precedence over risk of worsening injury - no judge will prosecute you for paralysing someone because you had to move then to enable CPR, as an extreme example.

For those who would not know what to do, I urge you to enroll on the course - usually £25-30 - but I bet the first person you save would willingly refund you every penny.
All sports coaches need to do it, but why don't you do it anyway? http://www.sussexfa.com/coaches/courses/fa-emergency-aid-workshops

 

[Blue3]

Heard about this on the radio on way home but the footage is shocking truly shocking let's hope they catch the driver and that the poor victim makes a full recovery

 

[Paul Reids Sock]

You mean this one?

https://youtu.be/6-4TYhkx1CU

Christ, in that one there is no question of scummyness (not saying that the driver in the first video isn't and not looking to open up that debate again)

 

[WATFORD zero]

Everyone makes mistakes and miscalculations when driving. However, this wasn't a mistake or a miscalculation, it was driving aggressively and recklessly by intention. Scumbag !

 

[Yoda]

Yes, I accept that in real time, some people will "freeze" with shock / disbelief / etc. but to stand and do nothing, IMHO, is not really good enough. I also belive that if you have had the training you will be much more likely to get stuck in with the knowledge that you just might be saving someones life. Better to have tried and failed, then never to have tried at all. I know what I would like to happen if I were the unfortunate victim.

Whole heartedly agree with this from past experience and from being a member of St John in the past.

One of my previous places of work was opposite the High Street car park in Worthing. One day there was a jumper (fortunately, I didn't see him falling), but my training kicked in, grabbed my kit and calmly walked over the road. What greeted me wasn't a pretty site, but had a go anyway (was a case of needing to go straight to CPR in this chaps case), and needless to say, it turned out he didn't survive. I look back and think, at least I tried.

Another point that has been mentioned is the risk of being sued in case you did something that made matters worse. Jenny gets really cross with this one - she assures us she has never heard a UK case for anyone being sued for trying to help someone. She does emphasise that this is only SO LONG AS you are following the recognised DR-ABC. Edna has already covered this off in good detail, but essentially, preserving life takes precedence over risk of worsening injury - no judge will prosecute you for paralysing someone because you had to move then to enable CPR, as an extreme example.

Completely this. Unless you are proved to have been completely incompetent, and for example ended up basically killing them from a conscious, living position due to your actions. You have nothing to worry about.