Lee Barnard

[Kinky Gerbil]

Yeates as well would be good.

 

[B.W.]

Yeates as well would be good.

Another good suggestion... why not?... we need a bit of creativity in midfield...

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

Another good suggestion... why not?... we need a bit of creativity in midfield...

then why not michael carrick? oh no hes a holding player, dont want him.

 

[Collar Feeler]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Lee Barnard

I believe we won more games without Oatway than with

Trying to put that statement into context, out of the last 59 competitve games the Albion have played we have won a measly 8 of them! shocking but true. Oatway played in 4 of those 8 wins including the 4 minutes when he got injured so effectively only 3 of them. The statement is therefore correct, do I win £5?

 

[B.W.]

then why not michael carrick? oh no hes a holding player, dont want him.

... because he is clearly not a realistic proposition... Yeates IS...

 

[West Hoathly Seagull]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lee Barnard

Oatway brings something to the team which no other player in the squad can currently do - and sense of fight, passion, leadership. Admittedly, that says more about the others than it does about Charlie, but your insinuation that he holds little value to the team doesn't stand up.

Speak to Matt Hicks and he will tell you that Charlie is just one of a number of senior professionals at the Albion who formed a sort of "umbrella" over the whole squad and set the standards for the rest to behave - the others were Nathan Jones, Danny Cullip and Paul Watson and before them Paul Rogers. With them in the dressing room, a self-obsessed boastful little arse like Knight would never have got away with the rubbish he did - Cullip at the very least would have had very severe words with him and probably thumped him, nor would Kuipers have got away with the strop at Southampton or his treatment of Lynch at Sheffield United. Regardless of what one thinks of McGhee, and my opinion on him is not relevant to my points here, a manager needs leaders in the dressing room to back him up and Charlie was the last remnant of this. Okay, he was around on the sidelines once he had had his operation, but clearly he couldn't have had the day-to-day influence he or that group had before. I think that has played a considerable part in the lack of team spirit we saw in the second half of last season, and whatever those who will defend the set-up against any criticism say, it clearly wasn't there in 2006. As for Barnard, yes please, but I don't think it's likely. A season-long loan at somewhere like West Brom is more likely. Again I suspect wages would be the sticking point.

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

... because he is clearly not a realistic proposition

really?

this club has NO ambition

 

[Debo]

A player that would be very useful, affordable is young but has a good record at our current level and also fits the profile of the the type of striker the clubs says it needs. Is Pavel Abbot of Huddersfield.

He apparently almost went to to MK Dons the other week, and is said to be surplus to requirements up there. I know of his abilty from the time he spent at Bury on loan from Preston, he then went on to do very well in Hudderfield's promotion year.

If he is anywhere close to that, he would be an excellent addition to the team, even at the expense of my own CKR. The only thing would be getting him to come. That said I dont think he is in the reckoning at all up there, so an initial loan period may suite both the club and the player.

 

[Napper]

dont think we will get anyone in , but if a shot then def worth going for

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

A player that would be very useful, affordable is young but has a good record at our current level and also fits the profile of the the type of striker the clubs says it needs. Is Pavel Abbot of Huddersfield.

He apparently almost went to to MK Dons the other week, and is said to be surplus to requirements up there. I know of his abilty from the time he spent at Bury on loan from Preston, he then went on to do very well in Hudderfield's promotion year.

If he is anywhere close to that, he would be an excellent addition to the team, even at the expense of my own CKR. The only thing would be getting him to come. That said I dont think he is in the reckoning at all up there, so an initial loan period may suite both the club and the player.

That sir is a excellent shout.

 

[chez]

really?

this club has NO ambition

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

ok danny murphy then. he doesnt play that often...

 

[Barrel of Fun]

A player that would be very useful, affordable is young but has a good record at our current level and also fits the profile of the the type of striker the clubs says it needs. Is Pavel Abbot of Huddersfield.

He apparently almost went to to MK Dons the other week, and is said to be surplus to requirements up there. I know of his abilty from the time he spent at Bury on loan from Preston, he then went on to do very well in Hudderfield's promotion year.

If he is anywhere close to that, he would be an excellent addition to the team, even at the expense of my own CKR. The only thing would be getting him to come. That said I dont think he is in the reckoning at all up there, so an initial loan period may suite both the club and the player.

Could you make it happen, Debo?

Not sure I would want him to replace CKR, although I haven't seen much of Abbot.

 

[Easy 10]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lee Barnard

Speak to Matt Hicks and he will tell you that Charlie is just one of a number of senior professionals at the Albion who formed a sort of "umbrella" over the whole squad and set the standards for the rest to behave - the others were Nathan Jones, Danny Cullip and Paul Watson and before them Paul Rogers. With them in the dressing room, a self-obsessed boastful little arse like Knight would never have got away with the rubbish he did - Cullip at the very least would have had very severe words with him and probably thumped him, nor would Kuipers have got away with the strop at Southampton or his treatment of Lynch at Sheffield United. Regardless of what one thinks of McGhee, and my opinion on him is not relevant to my points here, a manager needs leaders in the dressing room to back him up and Charlie was the last remnant of this. Okay, he was around on the sidelines once he had had his operation, but clearly he couldn't have had the day-to-day influence he or that group had before. I think that has played a considerable part in the lack of team spirit we saw in the second half of last season, and whatever those who will defend the set-up against any criticism say, it clearly wasn't there in 2006. As for Barnard, yes please, but I don't think it's likely. A season-long loan at somewhere like West Brom is more likely. Again I suspect wages would be the sticking point.

Superb post, couldn't agree more.

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

agreed about oatway.

but sadly in my opinion(yes he may be a good morale booster/team leader) but hes not a good enough footballer, and we are a football club.

if we needed someone like that we could hire a bouncer for half the wages and chuck him in the dressing room....

 

[Debo]

Could you make it happen, Debo?

Not sure I would want him to replace CKR, although I haven't seen much of Abbot.

Don't think I can help there but he's 6'2 24 years old 46 goals in 106 games for Huddersfield and can't get in the team up there. Didn't want to move to MK'Ds on a permenant bacis but as I said get him in on loan and see what happens surely worth a look

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