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cunning fergus

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Chapter 6 covering Denial is also where it references weaponsing the trauma of victims for political ends. It's reprehensible

Yes, that’s what has been happening for decades, and it’s not a surprise. The Casey Report is merely franking a well understood public understanding of how this country’s political and wider establishment has dealt with the mass rape of white working class children.

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It’s now about who goes to prison, who gets deported and who has their reputation, and hopefully public pension eviscerated.
 




HillBarnTillIDie

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Good to see that you are waiting for the results of the new inquiry before jumping to conclusions. And what if it doesn't find what you expect, another inquiry ?



And what if they don't find this ? Another inquiry ?
Don’t be a muppet.
It’s obvious to everyone that’s payed any attention that this whole situation stinks and that the previous inquiry didn’t touch the sides.

Also, to even suggest nothing may come out of this is an insult to the victims and shows a lack of any common decency and compassion.

Honestly…
 


Weststander

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Baroness Casey today explained very clearly why there now has to be a national enquiry into this particular abuse and why she changed her mind. Only one council Oldham offered to follow up on her original proposal of a local enquiry.

The victims and their solicitors want this.

Why on earth would anyone be against their wishes?
 


BadFish

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There is a lot of talk about the two inquiries I to grooming gangs on here. And as mentioned the ethnicity of said gangs.

A concern I raised earlier was that these inquiries would delay strategies to stop CSE and improve the processes around it. There are plenty of things to do that are already evidence based and working in other countries.

Does anyone know what changes and strategies have already/are being implemented?
 


BadFish

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nevergoagain

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Here's one, admittedly from 2020, but to be fair many of the offences often quoted are from earlier than this.

Section 5.1.3 covers the ethnicity and explains the data, that was available at the time. Interestingly it indicates that BAME suspects (as defined at that time) were under represented as a percentage of population, but due to lack of data collection there wasn't evidence to individual ethnicities!

https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...accessible-version#offender-characteristics-1
Eh?, that's literally the same link as I posted before ?, the same section has 4 references to studies that do indicate an over representation of minorities as offenders if you read on. I really can't be bothered to argue with those that won't listen.

You are correct, it's definitely not a political matter as Tories equally as to blame as anyone else so this really isn't the right thread, and of course we need to look at all CSE across the board no matter who the offender or victims are.
 
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darkwolf666

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Eh?, that's literally the same link as I posted before ?, the same section has 4 references to studies that do indicate an over representation of minorities as offenders if you read on. I really can't be bothered to argue with those that won't listen.

You are correct, it's definitely not a political matter as Tories equally as to blame as anyone else so this really isn't the right thread, and of course we need to look at all CSE across the board no matter who the offender or victims are.
Sorry, I missed your link to that report. Totally agree there is a lot of blame to be laid and this shouldn't be about political point scoring!

I guess the reason this appears in the Labour thread is because Starmer has been accused of a U-turn, by those who wanted an inquiry into Muslim grooming gangs - this inquiry, in face value, wants to go deeper than that, in particular making sure that the ethnicity of offenders and victims is recorded correctly, to enable better analysis and to direct police and Local Authority actions.

We are singing from the same hymn sheet, I think, it's about the victims and reducing the incidence of these type of offences...
 


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