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[Albion] Knockaert joins Fulham on initial one-year loan



GT49er

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Feb 1, 2009
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ha ha

yeh mate, I can imagine the conversation

Where were you before? Ah Boca Juniors, ah, you have full international caps for Argentina you say? OK then Alexis, well you'll now be playing for our u23 team. You might have a few problems dislodging Jordan Davies from the team as he's been playing well recently.
:facepalm:

I never suggested we dump him into the U23s.

How old is he? And at what age do young players have to be named in the 25 man squad to be allowed to play in the first team? Alzate isn't in the 25 man squad, and he is older than MacAllister.
 








Herr Tubthumper

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No worse than trossard


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Really? Trossard has 3 goals and 3 assists from just 21 games, 7 as sub. Knockeart had 5 goals and 7 assists in 72 Prem games.....and two straight reds. That’s just the raw stats. Trossards all round play is clearly better and crucially a lot more intelligent. People remember the spectacular from Knockeart.....but seeming are blind to the numerous times he tried to take on players and got crowded out or is out-witted by the smarter-than-a-Championship left back who simply steps to their right to show him the outside which he nearly always took to poor effect. That’s why his assists and goals are way below Trossard’s. In summary, he wasn’t talented or intelligent enough for the Prem. Trossard every time.
 


Charlies Shinpad

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Jul 5, 2003
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Form is temporary. I rate him very highly. His work rate is phenomenal and he has the ability to turn a game. We could do with his passion and fighting spirit too. That's just my opinion of course but he is one of Albion's all time finest to me.
Also a red card in waiting every time something goes against him.
That's his main downfall

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nwgull

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Jul 25, 2003
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It’s almost like Knockhaert didn’t take time to adapt back to the championship when returning from Belgium, Trossard has had to adapt to the PL give him a chance.

Knockaert took only 2 games (Rotherham and Blackburn away) before he started tearing Championship defences to shreds.
 


doogie004

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Really? Trossard has 3 goals and 3 assists from just 21 games, 7 as sub. Knockeart had 5 goals and 7 assists in 72 Prem games.....and two straight reds. That’s just the raw stats. Trossards all round play is clearly better and crucially a lot more intelligent. People remember the spectacular from Knockeart.....but seeming are blind to the numerous times he tried to take on players and got crowded out or is out-witted by the smarter-than-a-Championship left back who simply steps to their right to show him the outside which he nearly always took to poor effect. That’s why his assists and goals are way below Trossard’s. In summary, he wasn’t talented or intelligent enough for the Prem. Trossard every time.
A lot more intelligent? Your opinion maybe .
Spectacular only yep . The goal at palace remind me what spectacular trossard has in his locker that’s right nothing close .
Lost it trying to take on too many players ? Yep agree but at least trying to go forward rather than sideways and backwards .
You say he wasn’t talented for prem not me that’s blind
Knocky every time


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Herr Tubthumper

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A lot more intelligent? Your opinion maybe .
Spectacular only yep . The goal at palace remind me what spectacular trossard has in his locker that’s right nothing close .
Lost it trying to take on too many players ? Yep agree but at least trying to go forward rather than sideways and backwards .
You say he wasn’t talented for prem not me that’s blind
Knocky every time


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Let’s wait and see what Trossard has, he still has over 50 more games to go before he catches up with Knockaert.

And yes, I agree. It is just my opinion.
 




blockhseagull

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Jan 30, 2006
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Knocky is hardly tearing up the champ this season for a team in the top 3.

His ability has never been in question.... more his mental state.

Sadly for him he isn’t in a place where he can seem to reach his potential currently. I hoped a step down to the champ might help him rediscover his previous form and kick back on.

His move was best for all parties at the time, and I’m sure those who would rather have him here are unfortunately thinking about what he used to be able to do rather than what he is capable of now.

Hopefully he will find some peace with his issues and be able to become the AK that we all enjoyed watching for us
 


One Teddy Maybank

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Let’s wait and see what Trossard has, he still has over 50 more games to go before he catches up with Knockaert.

And yes, I agree. It is just my opinion.

I think if Trossard gets close to what Knockaert achieved at Brighton in terms adulation from the vast majority of fans, he would have done very well - especially as it would have been at PL level, where Knockaert was in and out in terms of form and well-being.

However, I remain firmly of the belief that it was a mistake letting Knockaert go and I’ve seen nothing to make me change my mind. There are times when we are crying out for proper width.


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Stat Brother

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I think if Trossard gets close to what Knockaert achieved at Brighton in terms adulation from the vast majority of fans, he would have done very well - especially as it would have been at PL level, where Knockaert was in and out in terms of form and well-being.

However, I remain firmly of the belief that it was a mistake letting Knockaert go and I’ve seen nothing to make me change my mind. There are times when we are crying out for proper width.


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Agreed and at those times GPott has had proper width available to him and hasn't used them.

We can debate AK being PL ready back and forth, all day long, but that is all completely meaningless as he wasn't and never will be GPott ready.
 




amexer

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Trouble with Trossard and others, is that apart from Ryan Dunk Webster Propper and Stephens very few under Potter get a run of games
 


Simster

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Jul 7, 2003
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Surrey
A lot more intelligent? Your opinion maybe .
Spectacular only yep . The goal at palace remind me what spectacular trossard has in his locker that’s right nothing close .
Lost it trying to take on too many players ? Yep agree but at least trying to go forward rather than sideways and backwards .
You say he wasn’t talented for prem not me that’s blind
Knocky every time


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pmsl.
 


darkwolf666

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A lot more intelligent? Your opinion maybe .
Spectacular only yep . The goal at palace remind me what spectacular trossard has in his locker that’s right nothing close .
Lost it trying to take on too many players ? Yep agree but at least trying to go forward rather than sideways and backwards .
You say he wasn’t talented for prem not me that’s blind
Knocky every time


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If you're looking for spectacular, check out Trossard's outside of the boot pass to Mooy for the second goal at home to Bournemouth.
Sometimes players do spectacular things without being "showy"...
 




Grombleton

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Dec 31, 2011
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A lot more intelligent? Your opinion maybe .
Spectacular only yep . The goal at palace remind me what spectacular trossard has in his locker that’s right nothing close .
Lost it trying to take on too many players ? Yep agree but at least trying to go forward rather than sideways and backwards .
You say he wasn’t talented for prem not me that’s blind
Knocky every time


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So because Trossard hasn't scored a Worldie then we should bring Knocky back?

If we're using that theory for a winger, then bring back Skalak.
 






Cowfold Seagull

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Apr 22, 2009
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I think if Trossard gets close to what Knockaert achieved at Brighton in terms adulation from the vast majority of fans, he would have done very well - especially as it would have been at PL level, where Knockaert was in and out in terms of form and well-being.

However, I remain firmly of the belief that it was a mistake letting Knockaert go and I’ve seen nothing to make me change my mind. There are times when we are crying out for proper width.


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Six short months ago l would have disagreed with you, but Leandt Trossard who l thought would spary into the knew Knocky, well he hasn't sparked at all. Doesn't always make the team, and when he does he usually flatters to deceive.

At least we have all seen just how good Knockaert can be on his day, whereas with Trossard we have seen too little..
 




Herr Tubthumper

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If you're looking for spectacular, check out Trossard's outside of the boot pass to Mooy for the second goal at home to Bournemouth.
Sometimes players do spectacular things without being "showy"...

His disallowed volleyed goal against, West Ham I think, was pretty spectacular as well.
 


doogie004

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If you're looking for spectacular, check out Trossard's outside of the boot pass to Mooy for the second goal at home to Bournemouth.
Sometimes players do spectacular things without being "showy"...

I’ll trump that with Knocky’s goal against Palace dont think Trossard got that on his locker


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