KLL and Buckley

[Davemania]

Lualua's first stint with us ended with him getting injured. When he returned it was made clear he can't play every game, his risk of injury increases greatly when he plays saturday and tuesday in a week. As it was for him when at newcastle it was for him when he came to us. There is a balance to strike with him to get the most from him at the least risk.

I don't recall any update that Lualua was suddenly 100% fit and healthy enough to play every game, just seems to be something people have forgotten about him (assuming they were around then - that is not meant as a dig at JCLs, but if you've only taken an interest in us since we moved to the amex it would have been before your time so might not be aware of the issue).

Eh? JCL god that gets thrown about a bit easily doesn't it? I grew up supporting the albion from a very young age thankyou mate. First saw them with my dad, alsoi a lifelong supporter, in 1984 standing an a stool to see over the crowd. What is this? Anyone expresses an opinion you dont agree with must be a jcl, that is ridiculous, why the f*** would someone whos a season ticket holder anyway bother to post on a club forum if as you say they only just recently and quite casually taken an interest in the club at all?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Eh? JCL god that gets thrown about a bit easily doesn't it? I grew up supporting the albion from a very young age thankyou mate. First saw them with my dad, alsoi a lifelong supporter, in 1984 standing an a stool to see over the crowd. What is this? Anyone expresses an opinion you dont agree with must be a jcl, that is ridiculous, why the f*** would someone whos a season ticket holder anyway bother to post on a club forum if as you say they only just recently and quite casually taken an interest in the club at all?

No, what he is saying is that people either didn't take much notice of previous occurences, or that they have short term memory problems, or have only just started supporting the club.

 

[drew]

It has been shown that if we play with two wingers we get overrun in midfield. When we get a tough midfield general in the squad then maybe we can have that luxury. It was no coincedence that we got relegated from the Championship in 2006 when Oatway had to retire with a badly broken ankle on Boxing Day.

That's a rather selective memory. We won 3 games before Oatway got injured and 3 after (excluding the game in which he did get injured which we won). We got relegated because we didn't have the budget to bring in the players needed and we were punching above our weight. No shame, just the way it was but to suggest that the reason we got relegated was because Oatway wasn't playing is ridiculous.

As for playing with two wingers, I would have KLL and Buckley with Vokes up the middle. Vokes and CMS doesn't work and CMS on his own has been a major disappointment this season. Both KLL and Buckley track back so I don't see the problem. It's not that we get overun in midfield it has just been that there has been no real attacking outlet at home, ie Millwall and Cardiff to name two examples, and we just end up giving the ball away.

 

[BLOCK F]

Is it just my imagination or do we ever have what we could call a 'fairly settled ' team?

 

[Davemania]

No, what he is saying is that people either didn't take much notice of previous occurences, or that they have short term memory problems, or have only just started supporting the club.

Of course i take notice of previous occurences, goes without saying doesnt it? KLL is fit and raring to go, whats the problem? That he might get injured?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Of course i take notice of previous occurences, goes without saying doesnt it? KLL is fit and raring to go, whats the problem? That he might get injured?

I would say, that, no he isn't fit and raring to go. KLL cannot play a full 90 minutes twice a week and hasn't done since he came to Brighton on loan over 2 years ago.

 

[Davemania]

I would say, that, no he isn't fit and raring to go. KLL cannot play a full 90 minutes twice a week and hasn't done since he came to Brighton on loan over 2 years ago.

He's a fit and healthy young man, i think more the reason he hasn't played a full 90 mins all the time is a selection issue, not because he can't physically do it

 

[Thunder Bolt]

He's a fit and healthy young man, i think more the reason he hasn't played a full 90 mins all the time is a selection issue, not because he can't physically do it

Then you do have short term memory loss as he's always had hamstring problems which is why he didn't start against Charlton the day that we won 4-0. That's just once instance when Gus stated publically that he wouldn't risk KLL in every game. He didn't play him at all in the following game at London Rd when we beat Posh 3-0.

 

[Davemania]

Then you do have short term memory loss as he's always had hamstring problems which is why he didn't start against Charlton the day that we won 4-0. That's just once instance when Gus stated publically that he wouldn't risk KLL in every game. He didn't play him at all in the following game at London Rd when we beat Posh 3-0.

well yeah if the guy's injured, fair enough, but he isn't right now. Play him if he gets injured, then hes injured

 

[upthealbion1970]

well yeah if the guy's injured, fair enough, but he isn't right now. Play him if he gets injured, then hes injured

Better to manage his fitness and not have him out for 6-8 weeks at a time IMO

 

[drew]

This rubbish about he might get injured etc etc. He hasn't played two games a week because he hasn't been selected. He had hamstring problems and he had a broken leg but now there is absolutely no indication that he isn't capable of playing two games a week. At the moment, he isn't even getting one game a week regularly and that is, whether thunderbolt likes it or not, down to selection.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

well yeah if the guy's injured, fair enough, but he isn't right now. Play him if he gets injured, then hes injured

Maybe play him sparingly with 60 mins in a game which prevents him getting seriously injured than play him for 90 mins and crock him for the next 5 games?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

This rubbish about he might get injured etc etc. He hasn't played two games a week because he hasn't been selected. He had hamstring problems and he had a broken leg but now there is absolutely no indication that he isn't capable of playing two games a week. At the moment, he isn't even getting one game a week regularly and that is, whether thunderbolt likes it or not, down to selection.

Of course it's down to selection but selection for what reasons?

 

[Davemania]

This rubbish about he might get injured etc etc. He hasn't played two games a week because he hasn't been selected. He had hamstring problems and he had a broken leg but now there is absolutely no indication that he isn't capable of playing two games a week. At the moment, he isn't even getting one game a week regularly and that is, whether thunderbolt likes it or not, down to selection.

Too right Drew, i dont see the problem myself. Players get injured, they are sidelined afterwards, why do some consider KLL such a delicate creature that he cant play regularly? Its madness, the guy is a superb athlete, a million times more than any of us will ever be

 

[BLOCK F]

Too right Drew, i dont see the problem myself. Players get injured, they are sidelined afterwards, why do some consider KLL such a delicate creature that he cant play regularly? Its madness, the guy is a superb athlete, a million times more than any of us will ever be

Agreed.Too much fiddling about imho!!

 

[NMH]

Is it just my imagination or do we ever have what we could call a 'fairly settled ' team?

I would echo this question. It occurs that settled vs rotation sees the best come from a team that's comfortable with knowing exactly who they are playing with every week, and if one is out the replacement slots in with the program. We seem to spend a lot of the time changing names and faces for each match. Apart from the defence, that is.

 

[Davemania]

I would echo this question. It occurs that settled vs rotation sees the best come from a team that's comfortable with knowing exactly who they are playing with every week, and if one is out the replacement slots in with the program. We seem to spend a lot of the time changing names and faces for each match. Apart from the defence, that is.

Yes early in the season we were fairly settled but beyond the point where things needed to be changed a bit yet since then its been quite the opposite, constant changing, seriously i think gus has lost his patience with people at times, for sure doesnt know his best team at all or system but then still just one point off the play offs so not bad obviously

 

[Davemania]

Ive found very mixed signals in his interviews, one minute saying we play one way, home or away yet then trying a new system or changing all the players if they dont perform constantly. I dunno i think its inexperience imo at times and im sure hes learning all the time as well

 

[11:56 from Fareham]

Hopefully with dicker back we may have some creativity throught the middle and not need them both on at the same time.

 

[GT49er]

It would be lovely to play with two out-and-out winger, but our midfield just isn't strong enough to enable us to do that. The trouble is that we've got quite a few decent central midfielders, but they're pretty much much of a muchness - that, apart from injuries, is probably why we've had so many changes there. If we could play a 4-5-2 system, plus Vicente in a free role, we would indeed be a force to be reckoned with, but I've got a nasty feeling there's something somewhere in the rules that prevents us doing that..............