Katie Price - claiming benefits

[Martlet]

I agree with your principle that very wealthy people should not be entitled to government hand outs, but I do not agree with you when you say "paid for by the government" (ie you and me). If she has amassed a £40m fortune then she would have paid tens of millions in tax over the past 20 years. This is far higher than "you and me".

The money she has paid in tax would of helped pay for "yours and mine" hospitals, schools and a lot of other public services. I have always found it a bit ungrateful when these people who pay vast sums of money in tax and then get slatted when they dare take anything back out of the pot. I also find it equally strange that people who earn low wages and contribute very little in the way of tax and then take a lot out of the pot, are held up as "hard working" pillars of the community.

This. If we agree that we enjoy living in a society where we look after the less fortunate, irrespective of wealth or status, then this argument is essentially based around jealousy of those with more money than us.

The alternative is that we go the US way - pay lower taxes and have a poorly-funded safety-net for those who can't afford to do it themselves.

Personally, I much prefer to have a system where essential care is open to all, and would hope that if my children needed special services getting them to and back from school, that they would be offered exactly the same support as all other children with the same problems.

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

At least she has paid millions in tax over the years. Unlike most who bleed this country dry..Believe me when I say I'm no fan of Price. I think represents just about everything wrong with our society today.

I totally disagree. She is a self made millionaire who came from a comprehensive school in Patcham with no qualifications. She hasn't made any money from getting her tit s out for over a decade and has launched many varied and successful business projects which people like and buy. She has used the media and continues to do so to add to her income stream. She has also paid millions in taxes to this country over the years. Good for her I say

 

[nwgull]

The question of universal benefits is one I struggle with, as is the 'I put in so I should claim back' argument.. As we know, the poor of the country are on their knees right now, use of food banks is rocketing, those in the most need are being persecuted at every turn and Katie Price's son is being accompanied to school by a nurse in a private car - That's not the socialism I sign up for....

But Katie Price's son is treated to the same benefits as any similarly disabled child - he doesn't get special treatment. It would seem unfair that anyone who contributes their fair share to the system was not allowed to benefit.

I've no idea where her other kids go to school, but would anyone complain if they went to the local state funded primary instead of a fee paying school?

 

[Mattywerewolf]

I think that the real recipient of any government assistance here is her son Harvey, who through no fault of his own, was born 'disabled'. Don't get me wrong, I hate everything that KP epitomises, but in this instance she is doing no worse than many, many people in claiming what she/Harvey are legally entitled to. There are hundreds of thousands of families claiming child benefit who do not need it, you don't hear of too many of them handing it back?

(Possibly one of the most magnimous things I have ever written on here, must be going soft).

This should be means tested. Child benefit changed a couple of years ago and is means tested. Don't think you get it if you earn over £50,000 per year. Clearly Harvey needs to be cared for. The issue, and outcry, is based on the fact that Katie can afford to do this but chooses to let us do it on her behalf.

 

[Triggaaar]

I agree with the rest of your post but...

I agree with your principle that very wealthy people should not be entitled to government hand outs

that is exactly the opposite of what the Green Party are proposing. They are proposing that everyone gets £72 per week, including Katie Price, because the logic is that she will be taxed so that she's giving back more than the £72 anyway, and it's easier to administer than working out who should and shouldn't get the £72. The same argument would apply to benefits for disabled children - it might be easier to offer the same benefits to all families and just tax the wealthier families more, rather than means test everything.

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

As well as laying her life bare on reality shows, she has put her name to clothes and jewellery as well as raking in cash from calendars and perfume. She’s had deals with household names such as Asda, Superdrug and Argos, been the face of Foxy Bingo and also found time to launch her own fashion label, Day 22, in February 2011.

In 2009, Price was number 12 on the Sunday Times Young Rich List (for people under 30s) with wealth of £30 million, up five places on the year before; an entry on the main Rich List at some point in the future is not out of the question.

She’s had her own company since 2003. Jordan Trading Ltd was set up to control the sales of calendars and other merchandising. The latest accounts for Jordan Trading, of which Price is the sole director, show the company has assets of just under £1 million.

Another company owned by Price is KDC Trading which owns KP Equestrian. Horse-mad Price set up the company, which sells items such as an £80 diamante bridle, in 2008.

Another key income stream for Price is books. Although her first autobiography ‘Being Jordan’ only secured a £10,000 advance from publisher John Blake, the book has sold well over 1 million copies since its launch in 2004.

Rival publishers were keen to sign Price as a new author and Random House has published a series of hit books under Price’s name, albeit written by a ghost author. Price came up with the characters though, including Angel, a former glamour model from Brighton who loves horses. Ring any bells?

Despite being just 34, Price has written four autobiographies including ‘A Whole New World’ in January 2006, ‘Pushed to the Limit’ in February 2008 and ‘You Only Live Once’ in October 2010.

By 2009 Price had earned an impressive £21.8 million from books, putting her in the top 100 bestselling authors of the decade alongside the likes of JK Rowling and Enid Blyton.

 

[Bold Seagull]

But Katie Price's son is treated to the same benefits as any similarly disabled child - he doesn't get special treatment. It would seem unfair that anyone who contributes their fair share to the system was not allowed to benefit.

Well there is the idealogical issue in a nutshell.

Should someone of wealth, who contributes to the state have the same right to take from the state as anyone else? It is a quintessentially right or left question.

 

[Iggle Piggle]

It's the same system that can pay the likes of David Bowie winter fuel allowance - Bizarre. If they can means test Child benefit, they can means test that and other things as well. I also really don't get the 'They've put in so they should be able to take out argument' If everyone thought that way, what exactly would be left? The whole taxation argument is more Ponzi scheme than a savings methodology, you simply won't get back what you put in.

I think it was [MENTION=21064]easy[/MENTION]10 who made the point earlier in the thread. I feel most sorry for the kid. Dwight Yorke is nowhere to be seen, she spends her life in celebrity locations or houses away from her family. He probably spends more time with the cab driver than anyone he is actually biologically related to.

 

[mikeyjh]

But Katie Price's son is treated to the same benefits as any similarly disabled child - he doesn't get special treatment. It would seem unfair that anyone who contributes their fair share to the system was not allowed to benefit.

I've no idea where her other kids go to school, but would anyone complain if they went to the local state funded primary instead of a fee paying school?

i may seem unfair, I don't think it is - The wealthy have to contribute more and, theoretically, take out less to support the less well off, that's the point of a welfare state.

 

[spring hall convert]

I find the way Katie Price has earnt her money, far more honourable than the way Katie Hopkins has earnt hers, the vile, bullying, professional troll (not in the physical sense, in the internet trolling sense.)

As for the original point, has Pricey got her money in one of the professional tax avoiding schemes like Gary Barlow or Jimmy Carr? That's far more of a problem in my eyes. (FWIW I wouldn't be at all suprised if she does.)

 

[Diablo]

I`m mixed on this one. Yes disabled Lad of anyone entitled to same benefits...However I think given her circumstances(filthy rich) she should pay for his travel.

 

[Buzzer]

i may seem unfair, I don't think it is - The wealthy have to contribute more and, theoretically, take out less to support the less well off, that's the point of a welfare state.

And that's what Katie Price does. She's paid in taxes, her son's care umpteen times as has David Cameron. And it's worth re-iterating that the benefit iscfor the disabled child.

The welfare state is universal healthcare or it's nothing. People who begrudge the state helping disabled children of wealthy parents are by definition against the ethos of this. Actually, they're playing a petty class war using disabled children as pawns in their game. Nice.

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

She might not be everyone's cup of tea, but making over £40m with just a pair of tits is pretty impressive.

Nothing compared to Tony Blair and he only had Brown and Mandelson

 

[Buzzer]

I find the way Katie Price has earnt her money, far more honourable than the way Katie Hopkins has earnt hers, the vile, bullying, professional troll (not in the physical sense, in the internet trolling sense.)

As for the original point, has Pricey got her money in one of the professional tax avoiding schemes like Gary Barlow or Jimmy Carr? That's far more of a problem in my eyes. (FWIW I wouldn't be at all suprised if she does.)

Popbitch once revealed that she refused to use tax avoidance schemes. She has savings accounts and that's it. Apparently somethings do with her dad not trusting these avoidance schemes.

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

Again, she has not made over £ 40m from a pair of tits, see above, £ 21.8m of that has come from her books, probably less than a million came from her topless work

 

[Machiavelli]

And that's what Katie Price does. She's paid in taxes, her son's care umpteen times as has David Cameron. And it's worth re-iterating that the benefit iscfor the disabled child.

The welfare state is universal healthcare or it's nothing. People who begrudge the state helping disabled children of wealthy parents are by definition against the ethos of this. Actually, they're playing a petty class war using disabled children as pawns in their game. Nice.

Top post, Buzzer.

 

[Nitram]

Many benefits attract financial assessment after eligibility has been proved, for example care at home,. Maybe it does not fit that criteria, but given the way the local authorities are trying to cut back on expenditure I would be surprised if they would not be looking into it. She can afford it.

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

And that's what Katie Price does. She's paid in taxes, her son's care umpteen times as has David Cameron. And it's worth re-iterating that the benefit iscfor the disabled child.

The welfare state is universal healthcare or it's nothing. People who begrudge the state helping disabled children of wealthy parents are by definition against the ethos of this. Actually, they're playing a petty class war using disabled children as pawns in their game. Nice.

Spot on Buzzer

 

[Questions]

She might not be everyone's cup of tea, but making over £40m with just a pair of tits is pretty impressive.

And fake tits at that............ Mighty impressive.
Oh wait a minute though, isn't she a best selling authoress as well ?

 

[mikeyjh]

And that's what Katie Price does. She's paid in taxes, her son's care umpteen times as has David Cameron. And it's worth re-iterating that the benefit iscfor the disabled child.

The welfare state is universal healthcare or it's nothing. People who begrudge the state helping disabled children of wealthy parents are by definition against the ethos of this. Actually, they're playing a petty class war using disabled children as pawns in their game. Nice.

That's utter garbage. It's nothing to do with class war, it's the fact that there are many people in desperate need, one of which is not Katie Price.