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Just how awful is this government? June 2020 edition



A1X

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Absolutely nothing comes as a surprise any more.

UK government running ‘Orwellian’ unit to circumvent transparency laws and block freedom of information requests

The British government is operating a secretive internal unit to block requests for information by the public under transparency laws, it has been revealed. The FOI Clearing House, an "Orwellian" operation within Michael Gove's Cabinet Office, shares personal information about journalists and researchers and has been accused of "blacklisting" people making freedom of information requests.

Transparency campaigners and data protection experts said the unit was certainly an attempt to circumvent the transparency protections in the Freedom of Information Act, and possibly even unlawful. The government is now facing a legal bid from openDemocracy and the law firm Leigh Day to reveal full details about how it operates.



https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/freedom-of-information-foi-clearing-house-b1760830.html

Pfft. I'm sure they have nothing to hide to go to these lengths...
 




sydney

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Jul 11, 2003
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Pfft. I'm sure they have nothing to hide to go to these lengths...

this is where we are at in Australia , covid commission not open to scrutiny , corruption commission is in the pipeline but sitting parliament is exempt....ha ha ha ha ha and for **** sake ..........bitcoin ...?? whats all that about...??
 


beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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While this is technically correct, isn't it the case that in the scenario where we see deflation on any great scale likely to be see the haemorrhaging of jobs?

possibly some, not haemorrhaging. its not necessary for jobs to be lost with mild deflation, just a bugger for anything to grow. if wages reduced, that could absorb some contraction in the economy while maintaining employment.
 


Randy McNob

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Jun 13, 2020
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yes, thats what deflation is, reduction in prices. so if cost of living goes down and by your argument of wage needed to track that, wages should go down. as you seem to admit though, your argument only goes one way.

No, theres no scenario where wages can go down. unless you have an example
 






Motogull

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beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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No, theres no scenario where wages can go down. unless you have an example

Japan 1990's to 00's, UK and elsewhere post 2008-crisis. in economic contraction there are two options, either declining wages or declining employment. pick one.
 






rogersix

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Jan 18, 2014
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Absolutely nothing comes as a surprise any more.

UK government running ‘Orwellian’ unit to circumvent transparency laws and block freedom of information requests

The British government is operating a secretive internal unit to block requests for information by the public under transparency laws, it has been revealed. The FOI Clearing House, an "Orwellian" operation within Michael Gove's Cabinet Office, shares personal information about journalists and researchers and has been accused of "blacklisting" people making freedom of information requests.

Transparency campaigners and data protection experts said the unit was certainly an attempt to circumvent the transparency protections in the Freedom of Information Act, and possibly even unlawful. The government is now facing a legal bid from openDemocracy and the law firm Leigh Day to reveal full details about how it operates.



https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/freedom-of-information-foi-clearing-house-b1760830.html

this had to happen
 








Randy McNob

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Jun 13, 2020
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Japan 1990's to 00's, UK and elsewhere post 2008-crisis. in economic contraction there are two options, either declining wages or declining employment. pick one.

wasn't there a short period of deflation post 2008 ? then we introduced quantative easing to stimulate the economy, but to be honest i'm not quite sure where you're going with this. I'm not aware of examples where staff would negotiate lower salaries based on deflation
 


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