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Jeff Shreeves .... You Idiot



Tim Over Whelmed

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Why would he remind Ivanovic that his booking means he misses the final. I'm not a fan of Chelski and all that it stands for BUT that was out of order, unnecessary and spiteful YOU COCK SHREEVES
 










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As I said on the match thread

Sound bites? Sentimentality - the heroics of the player who played a part to the end, knowing he wouldn't be in the final? The Emphasis of how important the win is for chelsea, despite personal failings? An expression of the importance of teamwork over personal glory to help build to the final? An attempt to maybe get a fresh new hook to the post match reporting (he is meant to be a reporter, after all)

He [Ivanovic] should know that booking cost him his place, and as such asking him about it shouldn't be a surprise, and shouldn't spoil the moment. Honestly, they have just made the champions league final, that's a major achievement, especially given their season and the opponents, that such a question shouldn't spoil the moment for them.


Further to that, Geoff is a reporter, he has to get the story, get everything he can, and he has to ask about as many aspects as he can so that the company he is paid to do his job by get the footage/story first. If he doesn't ask, one of the reporters would in the mixed zone a few minutes later, and they'd have the story. He was doing his job and doesn't deserve criticism for it, imo.
 




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As I said on the match thread

Sound bites? Sentimentality - the heroics of the player who played a part to the end, knowing he wouldn't be in the final? The Emphasis of how important the win is for chelsea, despite personal failings? An expression of the importance of teamwork over personal glory to help build to the final? An attempt to maybe get a fresh new hook to the post match reporting (he is meant to be a reporter, after all)

He [Ivanovic] should know that booking cost him his place, and as such asking him about it shouldn't be a surprise, and shouldn't spoil the moment. Honestly, they have just made the champions league final, that's a major achievement, especially given their season and the opponents, that such a question shouldn't spoil the moment for them.


Further to that, Geoff is a reporter, he has to get the story, get everything he can, and he has to ask about as many aspects as he can so that the company he is paid to do his job by get the footage/story first. If he doesn't ask, one of the reporters would in the mixed zone a few minutes later, and they'd have the story. He was doing his job and doesn't deserve criticism for it, imo.

He is that good a reporter he didn't,t even know if Ivanovic had been booked or not and had to ask the guy himself.
 


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He is that good a reporter he didn't,t even know if Ivanovic had been booked or not and had to ask the guy himself.

Seemed to me like he knew ivanovic was booked, it was just the way he asked the question. Even if he really wasn't sure and was checking (let's face it there have been cases of yellow cards being thought as being given to one player only to find out later it was given to another, so checking isn't really a ridiculous thing to do when he hasn't had a chane to get word from the officials at that point), it doesn't mean that my overall point is invalid.
 


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Seemed to me like he knew ivanovic was booked, it was just the way he asked the question. Even if he really wasn't sure and was checking (let's face it there have been cases of yellow cards being thought as being given to one player only to find out later it was given to another, so checking isn't really a ridiculous thing to do when he hasn't had a chane to get word from the officials at that point), it doesn't mean that my overall point is invalid.

I thought concentrating on the positives would have been the order of the day but he seemed far too keen to bring the guy down. Oh well.
 




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I thought concentrating on the positives would have been the order of the day but he seemed far too keen to bring the guy down. Oh well.

Which brings us back to my original reply. Ivanovic knew, telling someone something they already know isn't going to overshadow the major achievement that is this win, and as a reporter Shreeves sees the order of the day as covering every angle he has time for, not just to sycophantically drool over the positives.

He can't win. If he focuses on positives and getting all the "wonderful achievements, you guys were great" comments he gets criticised for being sycophantic, if he tries a more balanced approach he gets criticised for not being sycophantic.
 


Tim Over Whelmed

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Isnt Ivanovic more of an idiot for getting the yellow in the first place?

You've probably played football, as have I. In the heat and pressure of a match you are not thinking I can't get a booking you only have the interests of the whole team at heart and, sometimes, you take one for the team or just don't realise the full implications of your actions (stupid or not). Just thought the timing and phrasing of the question was really ignorant.
 


The Giant Bolster

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You've probably played football, as have I. In the heat and pressure of a match you are not thinking I can't get a booking you only have the interests of the whole team at heart and, sometimes, you take one for the team or just don't realise the full implications of your actions (stupid or not). Just thought the timing and phrasing of the question was really ignorant.

I think he got booked for arguing the penalty decision with the card happy referee. So it was a silly booking, especially if you are on that tightrope in the first place.
 




Gritt23

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Why would he remind Ivanovic that his booking means he misses the final. I'm not a fan of Chelski and all that it stands for BUT that was out of order, unnecessary and spiteful YOU COCK SHREEVES

I thought that was a very uncomfortable moment, and shows why Shreeves doesn't endear himself to everyone. Unfortunately, that is him doing what his bosses want him to do, as I presume the hope was that the player hadn't realised, and you would get a raw, emotional reaction to Jeff breaking the news to him.

Where I think it's a shame is that IF Shreeves is happy to annoy players, then I'd rather he showed divers clips of action, and asked them how they managed to hurt their FACE in that non-challenge.
 


NickBHAFC18

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Thought Jeff Shreeves mugged Ivanovic off so hard, me and my mates actually burst out laughing! Bang out of order, probably the most important game he has played for Chelsea, and BANG, Jeff had to pop that in there. Dick head.
 


JJB

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Classic bit of TV. The idiot should have f***ing known he was on a booking.
 




keaton

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I thought Neville and the other commentator were more stupid for whinging about the Cech booking without seeing what it was for
 


Tim Over Whelmed

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Which brings us back to my original reply. Ivanovic knew, telling someone something they already know isn't going to overshadow the major achievement that is this win, and as a reporter Shreeves sees the order of the day as covering every angle he has time for, not just to sycophantically drool over the positives.

He can't win. If he focuses on positives and getting all the "wonderful achievements, you guys were great" comments he gets criticised for being sycophantic, if he tries a more balanced approach he gets criticised for not being sycophantic.

Hear what you're saying Acker, however, the way I saw it was it came as a shock to Ivanovic and I just thought it was a clumsy way of conducting the interview. You're right though had he broken down in tears it would've made a great interview from Shreeves point of view!
 


leigull

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I can understand Stelling asking him something along the lines of "after playing so well you must be very upset to have picked up that yellow and now miss the final?", but he chose to word it in a horrible way that he sounded like he derived great joy from informing him the bad news in a rather smug manner, just seemed completely unncessary.
 


Bold Seagull

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Jeff Stelling "and the Chelsea fans are all still here, they're not going anywhere!"

No Jeff, they're shut in until the locals have cleared the area you complete tool.
 




byf1

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Jeff Shreeves = orrible, slimey prick.

Chelsea have just achieved the unthinkable and the first thing he goes in with is negative journalism, typical british media and everything I hate about the papers, tv and all media sources. The fact he seemed to come accross very smug and pushed it, showed he quite enjoyed being a smug slime-ball that loves passing on bad news.

Yes Ivanovic should have known etc, but if he didnt....then to do that to him is shameful and embarrasing.
 


Tim Over Whelmed

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Jeff Shreeves = orrible, slimey prick.

Chelsea have just achieved the unthinkable and the first thing he goes in with is negative journalism, typical british media and everything I hate about the papers, tv and all media sources. The fact he seemed to come accross very smug and pushed it, showed he quite enjoyed being a smug slime-ball that loves passing on bad news.

Yes Ivanovic should have known etc, but if he didnt....then to do that to him is shameful and embarrasing.

Bang on .... THIS!
 


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