Bold Seagull
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Just watched the replays and yes 1 goal, their 3rd the one off him at the near post. Anyone blaming him for the other 4 are in some kind of fantasy land.
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[Albion] Jason Steele
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nwgull
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Great but how about these stats:
Brighton shots on target - 5
Everton shots on target - 5
Brighton xG - 3.24
Everton xG - 2.94
The two keepers were literally the difference between being on either end of a 5-1 stuffing.
albionalex
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Yes, that was my point.
RDZ values the passing ability of Steele and that's why he's playing.
no way
How can you blame Steele ? His defenders disappeared for most of the goals. First and last was basically Dunk defending like he was on ketamine
Bold Seagull
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They literally weren’t, although you are demonstrating the adage that you can prove anything with stats.
Made a good save late in the first half. Could he have done better with the goals? Possibly. I'm sure he'll think so, because most goalkeepers will always think they could have done better with any goal they concede.
But he was also left exposed by a defence that was nowhere. For the first goal, Mitoma gives the ball away with most of the team up on the half way line, Dunk leaves Calvert-lewin to run into the box, Dunk then does nothing to put him under pressure or block the cross. Webster is caught ball watching. The second was a similar gift from us, where no one presses the crosser, and no one is on Docoure, leaving him time to pick his spot past an exposed Steele. The third was an unlucky own goal. The fourth was March pulling up injured giving them a free run in on the goal. Similarly the fifth they just got through for another one v one with Steele exposed again.
I think some (most?) of the criticism is coming from the entrenched ideas of whether Sanchez is better or Steel is. I don't see us winning any game that leaves either Sanchez or Steele as vulnerable as our keeper was today.
But he was also left exposed by a defence that was nowhere. For the first goal, Mitoma gives the ball away with most of the team up on the half way line, Dunk leaves Calvert-lewin to run into the box, Dunk then does nothing to put him under pressure or block the cross. Webster is caught ball watching. The second was a similar gift from us, where no one presses the crosser, and no one is on Docoure, leaving him time to pick his spot past an exposed Steele. The third was an unlucky own goal. The fourth was March pulling up injured giving them a free run in on the goal. Similarly the fifth they just got through for another one v one with Steele exposed again.
I think some (most?) of the criticism is coming from the entrenched ideas of whether Sanchez is better or Steel is. I don't see us winning any game that leaves either Sanchez or Steele as vulnerable as our keeper was today.
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Badger Boy
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- Jan 28, 2016
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He isn't a top PL keeper all of a sudden, he's doing a job for us but we'll sign a number 1 in the summer. He has done very well for us overall and it's good to see him turn his career around but he failed upwards and isn't at the same level as the rest of the team.
nwgull
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Our entire recruitment philosophy is based on stats that show things that aren't obvious to the naked eye. Numbers are very hard to argue with.
Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
The game was done at HT. The xG goals for the first half would be a more accurate reflection of the game. They could easily have got 4 or 5 at HT was as we barely managed a shot.
Of course the second half changed the xG stats and Pickford pull off a couple of regulation saves but there is no way that game was decided on the goalkeepers.
Absolute nonsense.
Hove Lagoonery
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- Dec 16, 2008
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Eh? I thought shot stopping was Matty's no.1 asset.
And what is 'Should have played on the pitch' supposed to mean??
:shrug:
nwgull
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Matt Ryan's shot stopping ability seemed to disappear in the first 10 games of the 20/21 season. Given that that was indeed his no. 1 asset as he at he was in no way a box-dominating keeper, it didn't really leave much left going for him.
- Nov 11, 2009
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I don't agree. OG was his fault and I'd fancy Ramsdale, Alison, Pope would do better with the goal where he was easily put down (as was Dunk), the last at his near post others would save imho.
Great strike by McNeil, and made no difference to result, but better keeper either saves it or positions better to cut off near post.
Team all round was poor but don't pretend Steele wasn't too just because he's a top bloke.
fruitnveg
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I like Steele and I'd keep him. RDZ clearly sees something in him more than Bobby. Its for that reason that i would not be surprised to see a new keeper in the summer with Bobby off elsewhere.
nwgull
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Which bit? Like I said, it's very hard to argue with numbers.
dejavuatbtn
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One night of frost does not a winter make.
TottonSeagull
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A bit more comparison
Steele - Concedes 5 goals (at home)
Pickford - Concedes 1 goal
that is horse and course I prefer to follow
portslade seagull
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Steele should've done better with the 5th and covered his near post better forcing the shot across goal
dejavuatbtn
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That fifth goal reminded me of Geoff Hurst’s third in the final. If steel had got a hand to it he would have needed steel fingers.
albionalex
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But RDZ doesn't.