[Albion] Is FH really performing that badly?

[One Teddy Maybank]

Very true, I am not sure people are taking in that much context

I think for most it is a case of venting after a disappointing result or performance. I wonder how many will still be calling for his head in the summer, especially once it becomes obvious he is staying and even more so if we start to make a few decent signings (not wingers and attacking mids).

I'll be honest I am not expecting much from the last few games but I am optimistic about next season. With some decent signings I think we'll see more of the good stuff and less of the bad.

Largely agree.

I think he’ll definitely be here, but I feel we need a more experienced manager.

I remain optimistic for the remainder of the season and you never know…
Defensively, it is a big summer.

I have to be careful re the optimism, as it seems a few on here seem to think it’s my expectation…….

 

[dazzer6666]

Largely agree.

I think he’ll definitely be here, but I feel we need a more experienced manager.

I remain optimistic for the remainder of the season and you never know…
Defensively, it is a big summer.

FH will be more experienced by next season

 

[Guinness Boy]

This seems a bit reductive ? Hinshelwood is "standing still" since August 2024.
But fair enough. So how much of this - presumably a strong indicator of his development and improvement of what is still a very young player - would you put down to Hurzeler ?

It’s not reductive. The bloke I was replying to wanted stats on Hinshelwood!!!

Yes, definitely players improving. Baleba, Gruda, O’Riley. Others standing still or going backwards.

 

[chaileyjem]

It’s not reductive. The bloke I was replying to wanted stats on Hinshelwood!!!

Yes, definitely players improving. Baleba, Gruda, O’Riley. Others standing still or going backwards.

I’d put Welbeck, Ayari, Georginio, Van Hecke in the continuing to improve column.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

I’d put Welbeck, Ayari, Georginio, Van Hecke in the continuing to improve column.

Interesting discussion between you both.

Do you think some of the names mentioned in the discussion are improving or playing to their ability (the reason we bought them)?

Granted Ayari, JPvH, Baleba…… and perhaps Gruda but the others yourself and @Guinness Boy have mentioned in some respects are possibly demonstrating what we saw when we purchased them…..

Welbeck was an England player, O’Riley a CL player, Rutter was excellent with a massive lower league team…..

 

[Guinness Boy]

Interesting discussion between you both.

Do you think some of the names mentioned in the discussion are improving or playing to their ability (the reason we bought them)?

Granted Ayari, JPvH, Baleba…… and perhaps Gruda but the others yourself and @Guinness Boy have mentioned in some respects are possibly demonstrating what we saw when we purchased them…..

Welbeck was an England player, O’Riley a CL player, Rutter was excellent with a massive lower league team…..

Agreed. I’m not sure there’s any way to show we’ve improved former Arsenal, United and England striker Welbeck but I’ll certainly say JPVH has got better over the season as has Ayari.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Agreed. I’m not sure there’s any way to show we’ve improved former Arsenal, United and England striker Welbeck but I’ll certainly say JPVH has got better over the season as has Ayari.

He’s having to the best stats of his career might be one way? Playing more minutes, more goal involvements, then talk of an England recall some 5 years after his last appearance. At 34 that is some achievement given the career he’s had.

 

[Mo Gosfield]

Hurzeler is doing ok.
The hangover/love-in that still lingers post RDZ and is preventing many fans from accepting and believing in FH is clouding the facts. RDZ dropped 14 points in his second season and got an easy ride because of the previous season. The squad had lost all momentum and was largely demoralised in the second half of last season.
We had wholesale changes in the summer. Lots of new faces. With a near fully fit squad, we started well and took 7 points from the first 9. Milner and O'Riley were the first of a catalogue of injuries that have dogged us all season. The manager has been forced to experiment more than he would have liked and at times we have paid the price. The time to really start judging him is next season.
RDZ...average points per game...1.43.......FH......1.50.