If the Germans had invaded Britain during WW2 what would the result have been.

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Soulman

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All the deck chairs and loungers on the beach would have towels on them and no queuing for Dicks Bar or for pints and pies in the concourse.
In fact just put your scarf on any seat and it's yours.
 




Triggaaar

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I think the expert view is that the Navy would have destroyed any invasion force which would have been sunk in the Channel. Hitler probably knew that. Also I think a good part of the RAF had been withdrawn to the Midlands ready to attack any invasion. So very few Germans would have got to the landing beaches
Exactly. Germany didn't even manage to push our fighters out of the south of England, and even if they had, we'd have been able to attack an invasion fleet from the midlands.
 


Ferring Marine

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Bierkellers everywhere, batwurst in the North Stand Concourse, reliable trains from BN to Falmer, no male chavs in tracky bottoms and hoods with fat wives, no immigrants, no Wednesday market in Worthing, Chandlers BMW dealership would go global, Mosley would run the Worthing and Adur Council and Harveys would be finally served in the Tudor Close.
Heaven.
Oh, and JFC would lead England.
 


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and what did that count for at Stalingrad? or El Alamein or after D-Day for that matter. history tells us that the primary military advantage in WWII (and leading up) was in a single tactic, and that they didnt fare so well at other times.
It counted for plenty considering the numerical and logistical advantages which the allies had in all the theatres you have mentioned, it also wasn't what you said , you specifically stated that aside from the tactics of blitzkrieg that 'there wasn't anything special about the German army' , which ive disagreed with , and I've stated why, you only have to look at how Italian troops fared in north Africa when compared to German troops, or how both romanian and Italian troops performed on the eastern front when compared to the Wehrmacht and SS.
 


Ferring Marine

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Exactly - time to sort out Network Rail, the immigrants, chavs and anyone who likes One Direction, aps and FROZEN.......................why the fect does everyone worship this sh*te whatever it is ?
 




Bevendean Hillbilly

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In every scenario ever played at military academies worldwide the Germans would have lost. No air superiority and no navy to speak of plus the English speaking world would ensure this. Pointless debate really.
 


perseus

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The game was played using a scale model of southeast England, the English Channel, and northern France. Available troops and resources were based on known plans from both sides, and weather conditions were based on contemporary British Admiralty records that had, until then, never been published. The scenario assumed that the German military had taken until September to assemble the shipping necessary for a Channel crossing, and that the Luftwaffe had not yet established air supremacy. The Luftwaffe also had to continue to bomb London. As happened historically, in the main the Germans had only converted river barges available as transport ships. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Sea_Lion_(wargame)

But if the Germans bombing strategy had changed? I am not so sure it would be so clear cut?

The inability to reinforce their troops if the Royal Navy still operated and all the harbours were destroyed.
 
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sahel

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In every scenario ever played at military academies worldwide the Germans would have lost. No air superiority and no navy to speak of plus the English speaking world would ensure this. Pointless debate really.



maybe not so pointless. There was a real danger of right wing politicians doing a deal with Hitler and engineering a coup against Churchill. What would have happened then?
 




GoldWithFalmer

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Am i correct that the numbers of German troops in operation Sea Lion amounted to a mere 250,000?
 




portlock seagull

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How about if they had got nuclear capability before the allies?

What if Hitler had never come to power? These are all so far fetched scenarios that they're almost pointless. I only find such hypothesis interesting if there was any immediate likelihood of an event eg in this context, what if the army had not been saved? The RAF had been defeated...but to discuss this kind of scenario you might as well say what if hitler had stuck to painting? We just wouldn't know and there's no real point asking is there? The Nazis were no where near ready to produce an atomic bomb
 




fat old seagull

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A fair reposte.
 




Raleigh Chopper

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It would have been a very close call.
If they decided to land on the south coast at Walmington, between Timothy Whites and the novelty rock emporium they would have failed (even if Godfrey had nodded off)
Anywhere else and we could all be wearing leather shorts right now.
 




Publius Ovidius

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By the way they treated the populations where they invaded, shipping out the able ones to work in Germany and killing the disabled, the Jews, gypsies, anyone that didn't agree with them...etc etc. I am not sure many of us would be here now. My father was a specialist engineer. As he got older, There is no way he would have remained in England and so wouldn't have met my mother..
 






mrhairy

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From their little Black Book that documented the persons that they would shoot such as Churchill and Noel Coward from a list of about 3000 names it was also known that the Isle of Man would become a labour camp for the non desirables such as the Jews and Intellectuals, etc. Interesting that if Turing had not cracked the Enigma than the first atom bomb would have fallen on Berlin.
In answer to the OP they would have got as far as London but failed to keep open their Lines of Communication, i.e. food, ammunition, and fuel, etc. This was because they had failed to knock the RAF out of the skies and blow the Royal Navy out of the sea. Which is why Sealion was never attempted.
 




Cheshire Cat

The most curious thing..
If they had continued bombing airfields instead of moving on the London, the RAF wouldn't have been able to get off the ground, so loosing command of the air. Therefore the invasion would probably have succeeded, the navy would have been bombed out of the English Channel, the army was useless immedietly after Dunkirk, and we would have been thrashed.
 


cunning fergus

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maybe not so pointless. There was a real danger of right wing politicians doing a deal with Hitler and engineering a coup against Churchill. What would have happened then?


The likes of Chamberlain and Halifax (Tories) were responsible for the final stages of appeasement culminating in a possible settlement with Hitler in 1940, however that should not mean Britain's left wing politicians were paragons of political virtue.

Ramsay MacDonald's Labour Govt started the appeasement ball rolling when it cam to power in the 30s and ignored all the warning signs.

Had that Govt executed a more forthright foreign policy, taken Churchill's warnings more seriously instead of labelling him as a "warmonger" what would have happened then?
 


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