I see the Aussies are getting it right......again.

[User removed 4]

Wish our government looked after our interests like the Aussie government does.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-29809863

 

[larus]

Seems a reasonable precaution.

I don't understand the outrage over putting people into quarantine. There's an incubation period of approximately 21 days before symptoms show. In large cities, think how fast this could spread. If medical staff have contracted it in the US even though they had protective clothing, I wonder how easy it is to transmit. Maybe easier than was initially intimated.

i read something recently; a quote along the lines of the most serious threat to mankind would come from a virus.

i would rather governments take sensible precautions to stop any potential epidemic. Inconveniencing a few people for a short time is the most prudent action IMO.

 

[Chicken Runner61]

They are protecting our interests here as well - With 300 Aussie barmen arriving everyday in the UK we'd be bound to get it here

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Seems a reasonable precaution.

I don't understand the outrage over putting people into quarantine. There's an incubation period of approximately 21 days before symptoms show. In large cities, think how fast this could spread. If medical staff have contracted it in the US even though they had protective clothing, I wonder how easy it is to transmit. Maybe easier than was initially intimated.

i read something recently; a quote along the lines of the most serious threat to mankind would come from a virus.

i would rather governments take sensible precautions to stop any potential epidemic. Inconveniencing a few people for a short time is the most prudent action IMO.

Ebola isn't infectious until the symptoms show. Medical staff have caught it because they haven't been careful enough with precautions and have admitted as much.
Australia issue very few visas to the affected countries in any case, so it's hardly going to cause hardship. It's just the press hyping up the news again.

 

[larus]

Ebola isn't infectious until the symptoms show. Medical staff have caught it because they haven't been careful enough with precautions and have admitted as much.
Australia issue very few visas to the affected countries in any case, so it's hardly going to cause hardship. It's just the press hyping up the news again.

The problem which I could see is that if so one gets infected and travels to a large city but doesn't realise they are infected (assume they only have cold/flu), then infect others, this is how it could spread quite quickly in a densely populated city.

I haven't read read a huge amount about it, but something I read stated it could be transmitted by coughing/sneezing. Is that correct

 

[Thunder Bolt]

The problem which I could see is that if so one gets infected and travels to a large city but doesn't realise they are infected (assume they only have cold/flu), then infect others, this is how it could spread quite quickly in a densely populated city.

I haven't read read a huge amount about it, but something I read stated it could be transmitted by coughing/sneezing. Is that correct

No, it is contagious, not infectious. That means you have got to touch the person and exchange body fluids. The most dangerous time for catching ebola is handling the dead body.

 

[Husty]

I haven't read read a huge amount about it, but something I read stated it could be transmitted by coughing/sneezing. Is that correct

No it's not in the slightest bit correct so how about you shut up and go and read up a bit at which point you'd understand what a pathetically miniscule threat the disease poses to the western world at which point you might understand just how pointless this Australian travel ban is, although unsurprising, it's a horrible racist country.

 

[larus]

No it's not in the slightest bit correct so how about you shut up and go and read up a bit at which point you'd understand what a pathetically miniscule threat the disease poses to the western world at which point you might understand just how pointless this Australian travel ban is, although unsurprising, it's a horrible racist country.

Hmm, maybe in your haste you missed the point where I said something I read stated it could be transmitted by coughing/sneezing. So, why don't you shut up and read before jumping in.

 

[larus]

No it's not in the slightest bit correct so how about you shut up and go and read up a bit at which point you'd understand what a pathetically miniscule threat the disease poses to the western world at which point you might understand just how pointless this Australian travel ban is, although unsurprising, it's a horrible racist country.

Well smartarse, the CDC state that it CAN be transmitted by coughing/sneezing.

http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/transmission/qas.html

 

[sydney]

No it's not in the slightest bit correct so how about you shut up and go and read up a bit at which point you'd understand what a pathetically miniscule threat the disease poses to the western world at which point you might understand just how pointless this Australian travel ban is, although unsurprising, it's a horrible racist country.

pillock..!

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Well smartarse, the CDC state that it CAN be transmitted by coughing/sneezing.

http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/transmission/qas.html

The cough or sneeze (not symptoms of Ebola) would have to directly into your mouth or eyes, for it to infect you.

 

[Chicken Runner61]

Are you worried you can get it from neighbours larus?

 

[Lord Bracknell]

This seems to me to be a totally irrelevant gesture by the Australian authorities designed only to perpetuate ignorance about a very unpleasant disease. It will achieve nothing.

 

[Yoda]

Well smartarse, the CDC state that it CAN be transmitted by coughing/sneezing.

http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/transmission/qas.html

The word they used is MAY, and you'd have to be pretty ####### unlucky to contract it.

Unlike respiratory illnesses like measles or chickenpox, which can be transmitted by virus particles that remain suspended in the air after an infected person coughs or sneezes, Ebola is transmitted by direct contact with body fluids of a person who has symptoms of Ebola disease. Although coughing and sneezing are not common symptoms of Ebola, if a symptomatic patient with Ebola coughs or sneezes on someone, and saliva or mucus come into contact with that person’s eyes, nose or mouth, these fluids may transmit the disease.

And we know how the Americans love to make a mountain out of a mole hill, and over exaggerate.

 

[larus]

Not at all.
I think we can sometimes not treat nature with enough respect and assume that science knows everything and can prevent anything.
For example, I wasn't aware that the virus could live outside of the body on dry surfaces for several hours. I accept it's not airborne, and understand that it is extremely unlikely to mutate to become airborne. However, as there is no proven cure yet, and it has such a high mortality rate, prudent practices would appear eminently sensible.

 

[wellquickwoody]

No it's not in the slightest bit correct so how about you shut up and go and read up a bit at which point you'd understand what a pathetically miniscule threat the disease poses to the western world at which point you might understand just how pointless this Australian travel ban is, although unsurprising, it's a horrible racist country.

If the cap fits etc etc......

 

[beorhthelm]

if one looks at nearly all the stories of Ebola out side of Africa, i think you'll see a common theme of nurses and doctors treating the sick carrying it back. Sierra Leonis are not travelling infected, western health workers are travelling infected. so this is a usless gesture. to contain the spread, they need to ban/quarantine any healthworker who has been in west africa in the past month, something few would agree is fair or likely to happen.

 

[Guinness Boy]

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[Westdene Seagull]

No it's not in the slightest bit correct so how about you shut up and go and read up a bit at which point you'd understand what a pathetically miniscule threat the disease poses to the western world at which point you might understand just how pointless this Australian travel ban is, although unsurprising, it's a horrible racist country.

Wow - so a civil discussion is turned into an insult throwing match - well done !!!! And it's a bit of pot, kettle and black given your last statement. I doubt you've even been within a few thousand miles of Australia.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

if one looks at nearly all the stories of Ebola out side of Africa, i think you'll see a common theme of nurses and doctors treating the sick carrying it back. Sierra Leonis are not travelling infected, western health workers are travelling infected. so this is a usless gesture. to contain the spread, they need to ban/quarantine any healthworker who has been in west africa in the past month, something few would agree is fair or likely to happen.

Indeed. The Australian government is, however, trying to opt out of any responsibility for the wellbeing of Australian citizens who volunteer to work in West Africa. They seem to be expecting the UK authorities to provide the facilities for Australian health workers travelling out of West Africa.