[Albion] Hurzeler is statistically our best Premier League manager

[Hugo Rune]

I think we scored around 7 goals from corners this season?
We also had 7 penalties - second in the league behind Liverpool (9)
And there's a thread on here somewhere about the increasing frequency of wonder goals https://www.northstandchat.com/threads/quality-of-goals-this-season.413668/

So - not really super rare!

You can prove anything with facts!

 

[Bodian]

You can prove anything with facts!

It is theoretically a thread about statistics - so I like to stay 'on message'!!

 

[Guinness Boy]

Was never going to last with his temperament.

Then why was he appointed? Why did our famous data driven recruitment not peg him as a wrong un? That should have been obvious at interview stage, no?

It’s hilarious that people take the club briefed line that he was somehow against the big plan without questioning why we appointed him in the first place

 

[Hugo Rune]

Then why was he appointed? Why did our famous data driven recruitment not peg him as a wrong un? That should have been obvious at interview stage, no?

Because Tony Bloom is a gambler at heart, albeit a very calculated and data driven gambler.

Sometimes you need to make a change, you need to shake things up. You need to light a firework instead of igniting a long lasting fire. The gamble resulted in our best ever finish and a European tour. You could argue that it paid off big time. You could also argue that those who appointed RDZ knew that the long term picture might be potentially difficult but were much more concerned with the getting the right manager to take the baton on from Potter after his fantastic start to the season.

Personally, I believe it was the right appointment and despite the sulk and the histrionics, the initial year of his tenure made it all worthwhile.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Because Tony Bloom is a gambler at heart, albeit a very calculated and data driven gambler.

Sometimes you need to make a change, you need to shake things up. You need to light a firework instead of igniting a long lasting fire. The gamble resulted in our best ever finish and a European tour. You could argue that it paid off big time. You could also argue that those who appointed RDZ knew that the long term picture might be potentially difficult but were much more concerned with the getting the right manager to take the baton on from Potter after his fantastic start to the season.

Personally, I believe it was the right appointment and despite the sulk and the histrionics, the initial year of his tenure made it all worthwhile.

The ease at which a parting was made promptly and amicably would suggest contractually this was acknowledged too.

 

[BadFish]

Then why was he appointed? Why did our famous data driven recruitment not peg him as a wrong un? That should have been obvious at interview stage, no?

It’s hilarious that people take the club briefed line that he was somehow against the big plan without questioning why we appointed him in the first place

I assumed that he wished to make amendedments or changes to the plan as it was originally agreed. The board said no and off he went.

Nothing to do with his temperement and not an indicate he is a wrong in. Just one of those things where an agreement couldn't be reached.

I also thought this was the clubs line on this too.

What am I missing?

 

[Guinness Boy]

Because Tony Bloom is a gambler at heart, albeit a very calculated and data driven gambler.

Sometimes you need to make a change, you need to shake things up. You need to light a firework instead of igniting a long lasting fire. The gamble resulted in our best ever finish and a European tour. You could argue that it paid off big time. You could also argue that those who appointed RDZ knew that the long term picture might be potentially difficult but were much more concerned with the getting the right manager to take the baton on from Potter after his fantastic start to the season.

Personally, I believe it was the right appointment and despite the sulk and the histrionics, the initial year of his tenure made it all worthwhile.

I can agree with pretty much all of that to be fair. But I still don’t buy the posts from others saying what a terrible person RDZ is / was. If that’s the case we either hired a terrible person or made a person terrible.

 

[Baldseagull]

RDZ didn't fancy the churn of players we have here, where our best often depart and we replace with a player with potential. For his demands, I think a more stable squad is required. Hurzeler is a better fit for our club at this time, but if we start winning trophies, we may become a destination club for top players, rather than the transition club that we are currently, then maybe RDZ would be a better fit.

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

Because Tony Bloom is a gambler at heart, albeit a very calculated and data driven gambler.

Sometimes you need to make a change, you need to shake things up. You need to light a firework instead of igniting a long lasting fire. The gamble resulted in our best ever finish and a European tour. You could argue that it paid off big time. You could also argue that those who appointed RDZ knew that the long term picture might be potentially difficult but were much more concerned with the getting the right manager to take the baton on from Potter after his fantastic start to the season.

Personally, I believe it was the right appointment and despite the sulk and the histrionics, the initial year of his tenure made it all worthwhile.

I would argue it was not an appointment to make a change or shake things up, but rather one to keep the Potter good-times rolling. It was not intended to be a long-term appointment because it didn't need to be. As you say, it worked for almost as long as it needed to, almost, those Wolves FA Cup and Roma Europa Cup team selections and defeats still smart.....