house of commons protesters: shoot them?

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SussexHoop

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Dec 7, 2003
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Playing devil's advocate here but assuming we accept that foxes are vermin and need to be killed, what is your preferred method?

a) hunting them with a pack of dogs until they're exhausted and then ripping them to pieces?

b) shooting them, which has a risk of them not being killed outright, escaping and dying a slow and painful death

c) poisoning them, which means a slow and painful death.

My big gripe about yesterday's events is I believe it was a purely political move. If this government was so desperate to ban fox-hunting that they are prepared to use the Parliament Act to force the legislation through, why did they not use the Parliament Act to force it through within days of coming to power 7 years ago?
 


On the Left Wing

KIT NAPIER
Oct 9, 2003
7,094
Wolverhampton
lincs seagull said:
I did not get them any where MORI poll 59 % of britain pro hunting:p

Sorry but according to a MORI spokesman last night on Newsnight their most recent poll showed 70% of those questioned, support a ban on hunting!
 


lincs seagull

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Feb 25, 2004
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boston
On the Left Wing said:
Sorry but according to a MORI spokesman last night on Newsnight their most recent poll showed 70% of those questioned, support a ban on hunting!


Yeah 70% of the house of commons
 


lincs seagull

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Feb 25, 2004
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No stats no word of mouth actually what i have seen from these hunts i have only seen once in the last 5 years the fox actually caught and killed.

maybe that the hunt i see are shit or that this is common place the hunt master has said this is average.

i always see then at the local and when they are supposed to catch it they have to bring back proof and only once have seen it.

against it or not that is no way as bad as the anti hunt state there is always some invention on both sides but i feel that is no way as bad as they make out in parliment
 




zefarelly

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Jul 7, 2003
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depends who and where you aske really doesnt it

why not train foxes to be of use on the farm, perhaps wooing them over with a nice Chicken madras and some gin, then everyone can live in harmony on the same land :rolleyes:
 




On the Left Wing

KIT NAPIER
Oct 9, 2003
7,094
Wolverhampton
lincs seagull said:
Yeah 70% of the house of commons

It was a usual MORI sample poll of 1,100/2,300

From MORI's own website:
2002
A MORI poll, released immediately after the Commons vote for a ban on hunting with dogs, shows that a majority of the public believes that the government should now bring in a ban on hunting this year, irrespective of the vote in the House of Lords tomorrow.

The last MORI hunting poll*, in January, showed that 72% of the public think fox hunting should not be legal, 80% think so of deer hunting and 81% of hare coursing.

2003
A majority of people in the UK think that hunting with dogs is cruel, according to new figures from the MORI Social Research Institute. The project, commissioned by the Campaign to Protect Hunted Animals (CPHA), asked people to say whether they believed four selected words did or did not apply to hunting with hounds.

Four in five people (80%) think the word 'cruel' applies to hunting, with 17% disagreeing. The word 'humane' is linked to hunting by 18% whilst 78% do not feel the word 'humane' applies to hunting.

Asked if they feel the word 'immoral' can be applied to hunting with hounds, three in five (61%) believe it can be, and a third (34%) believe it cannot.

2004
The new poll has not yet been posted
 
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26-10-02

FFS MURRAY!!!!!!!!
Apr 22, 2004
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purley
lincs seagull said:
I did not get them any where MORI poll 59 % of britain pro hunting:p
I've yet to meet one normal person who does and I live in surrey.What normal person gets pleasure fromseeing a animal pulled apart.:( Most people in the street would try and help a wounded animal you and the like would rush to see dogs pull it apart.It's a small step from sadism.
 


Tom Bombadil

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Jul 14, 2003
6,137
Jibrovia
I don't support hunting, by I can understan why passions are running so high. Just imagine if parliament had voted to ban football.
 


lincs seagull

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Feb 25, 2004
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boston
Ok fair enought but where did the info come from for pro hunting come from and what was asked.

it seems differnet results are posted regular on this

one thing is certain more pro hunt turned up than anti the countryside are pretty pissed buy the way the goverment have shafted them over many issues issues that does not affect city dewllers but cause a lot of job losses in the country side
 




Albion Dan

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Jul 8, 2003
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Peckham
bhafc4eva said:
I think they were right to do what they did, if my livelyhood was at stake i would have done the same. I hope they dont get charged and hunting is allowed to continue for many marvellous years to come.

Their Livelyhood?

I dont really think one of Pricnce Wills mates or Brian Ferrys son are reliant on fox hunting for survival!:dunce:
 


lincs seagull

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Feb 25, 2004
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boston
26-10-02 said:
I've yet to meet one normal person who does and I live in surrey.What normal person gets pleasure fromseeing a animal pulled apart.:( Most people in the street would try and help a wounded animal you and the like would rush to see dogs pull it apart.It's a small step from sadism.

I dont seek any pleasure from hunting i dont watch it i just talk to people and the the country side round here there is a lot at stake a lot of money will be pulled out and the people and the countryside will be affected

Some rich tossers do it but the less well off benefit from this and i still stand by the fact that more get away than are caught and more get flattend by cars.
 


lincs seagull

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Feb 25, 2004
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boston
Albion Dan said:
Their Livelyhood?

I dont really think one of Pricnce Wills mates or Brian Ferrys son are reliant on fox hunting for survival!:dunce:

yep agreeded but the press picked them out They might be doing this out of purley selfish resons or they are doing it because they can see many people in there area suffering for it
 




beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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Shot? Shirley they should be set free in the shire and let the hounds chase them down ???
 


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