Cowfold Seagull
Fan of the 17 bus
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Well there is no doubt who is the better manager, or better team come to that, but in relative terms maybe you are right, perhaps there should be.
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[Football] Has Nathan Bitten Off More Than He Can Chew? - Sacked 12/02/2023
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I think Stains have got their timing wrong. They could've have either sacked Ralph the Rabbit Hutch in the summer and brought in Jones (or someone else) with a view of progressing the squad, or they should've stuck with Ralph.
I'm not sure what Nathan can do with what is clearly an extremely undercooked squad, starting behind the rest of the pack. Hope they stick with him if they go.
I'm not sure what Nathan can do with what is clearly an extremely undercooked squad, starting behind the rest of the pack. Hope they stick with him if they go.
Jones basically had a 5 week pre season with the squad during the World Cup & he’s got a transfer window now!
Don't know how much a pre-season helps if you have such an undercooked squad tbh. It's not like 5 (3 in reality) weeks training is going to turn Adam Armstrong into Harry Kane is it?
I'm sure that they'll bring in a few this month but the January window is a completely different beast to the summer, especially for a team sitting at the bottom of the pile. It's all a bit desperate for that lot IMO. Don't think Jones can really be at fault for that - it's poor planning by the club/board.
N.B. I will find it very enjoyable when they do go down on a personal level.
pasty
A different kind of pasty
Thank you. I couldn't go on an opponent's forum and say the same - maybe you care less than me, but I expect you're just a better person
Still a long way to go. Some here thought Jones should've had the Brighton job ahead of Hughton. I have no idea whether Jones will make it as a manager. The PL is obviously hard, and even top sides like Chelsea can go on bad runs, so any manager taking over at Southampton could have struggled.
Pah, that was just a stupid comment by one particular twat and nothing more.
Thank you!
Nathan Jones is prickly whe you say " hello how are you to him "
True. But he had 6 weeks to work on his tactics against Brighton which I feel we can all agree were a bit basic and odd. At least if he got his tactics right, even if they weren’t executed properly, you can argue there is some hope…..but he’s been promoted out of his depth.
When you say "sorry saga". In a nutshell, what would you say Saints fans believe has happened? And why are they expecting it to get a lot worse?
el punal
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Keeping it as brief as possible :
Ownership issues - since the death of Marcus Liebherr , who rescued and supported the Saints (think Tony Bloom) the club have had a succession of inadequate owners. It seems their remit has been to sell their best players (Van Dijk, Mane, Shaw, Lallana, Lovren etc) and replaced them with bargain basement replacements.
A lack of direction, structure and purpose - where is the club going what are it’s aims (five year plan and all that)?
Poor management recruitment - with the exception of Pochettino and Koeman who both jumped ship.
Not investing time or money in their famous academy which has produced very little in the way of quality over the last few years - compare that with the Albion.
A breakdown of trust and communication between the club and its supporters.
Awful performances on the pitch reflecting the whole malaise of the club in general.
Hiring Nathan Jones (poor sod) on the cheap. Allegedly on £1.5 million p.a. compared with £6+ million for Hassenhuttl (sp?)
The new owners Sport Republic seen as using the club to gain loans to support their other interests.
To sum up - a poisoned chalice, a dog’s dinner, a complete f*** up of a once proud, well run club. And, in my view with no solution anyway near the horizon.
There, I think that just about covers it!
Milano
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Can I be the first in wishing Jones the very best of luck today…….
Motogull
Todd Warrior
- Sep 16, 2005
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And I'll be the second.
Hopefully JWP will make Dibley cry again and get carded twice for old times' sake.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Good old Nathan. Once a seagull, knocking Palace out of the cup at Selhurst Park.
Bowers-sfc
forever red, never blue
- Feb 20, 2011
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Went today..
First half was shocking.
A large portion of saints fans singing ‘Nathan Jones, you’re football is Shit’ ( he also alluded to this chant after the game, so fair play )
In my opinion, we got lucky. 2 massive defensive errors led to our goals, and other than those, we didn’t look like scoring.
Oh well.
In the hat, as they say
First half was shocking.
A large portion of saints fans singing ‘Nathan Jones, you’re football is Shit’ ( he also alluded to this chant after the game, so fair play )
In my opinion, we got lucky. 2 massive defensive errors led to our goals, and other than those, we didn’t look like scoring.
Oh well.
In the hat, as they say
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Wrong thread
Sunderland are through, on the other hand.
There's hope for me minimising my train fares yet.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Sorry I edited my post because I realised this was the Nathan thread. I transferred it to our match thread.
Justice
Dangerous Idiot
Deserves some credit after last nights performance. His new striker looks decent.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Two wins in two cup games should help with team confidence, and get the fans off his back for a week or two.
Cup matches can become an unwelcome distraction. I bet he’d take 6 points instead.