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& up pops my second favourite Antisemite...If the cap fits……..
& up pops my second favourite Antisemite...If the cap fits……..
My point was that I don't think Thatcher or Israel supported South Africa because of Jews and gold. South Africa was a last bastion of "civilization" and free marketry in a continent increasingly overrun by self-styled Marxists lunatics like Ebagum (as Private Eye called him) in Zimbabwe and the MPLA in Angola. The 80s was still a time when communist plots and the spread of international marxism was a mainstream concern of the right, even then centre right. So it seems a bit needless to wheel out the old trope about Jews and gold every time Israel and its one-eyed foreign policy is mentioned.
That said @sydney has contacts in South Africa so presumably he knows best.
My view? The time the bombing stopped was some time ago.
If drawing your attention to uncomfortable truths, this particular incident or not, brings the first turn to defence from Judaism then so be it. I know what I am, I am not ashamed of criticising Jews or Israel when I believe that they are in the wrong, nor willI I defend Palestinians when they are wrong. But you? Hear no, speak no, see no etc etc.. EIGHT THOUSAND children killed by the IDF, FACT, in less than three months, go on, defend that.& up pops my second favourite Antisemite...
Yep. Antisemite & proud, regularlyIf drawing your attention to uncomfortable truths, this particular incident or not, brings the first turn to defence from Judaism then so be it. I know what I am, I am not ashamed of criticising Jews or Israel when I believe that they are in the wrong, nor willI I defend Palestinians when they are wrong. But you? Hear no, speak no, see no etc etc.. EIGHT THOUSAND children killed by the IDF, FACT, in less than three months, go on, defend that.
Still no answer to the 8,000 children question then?Yep. Antisemite & proud, regularly
You know capitals do t make you any more convincing or correct, don't you Einstein?
Those numbers are direct from Hamas. Who weirdly also never have combatants in their instantly made up 'figures'.Still no answer to the 8,000 children question then?
Feel free to provide a figure that you think is realistic for the number of children killed, sorry murdered, by Israel then. The photos from Gaza speak for themselves about the indiscriminate murder being carried out by the IDF ( even their hostages ! ).Those numbers are direct from Hamas. Who weirdly also never have combatants in their instantly made up 'figures'.
Tbf, you're only interested in Jew hate so there's not going to be a conversation between us without it, is there Hamas boy
I have no idea. & neither do you. It's a war. Not that you're interested. You appear almost as ill informed as wqw. Although with him it's deliberateFeel free to provide a figure that you think is realistic for the number of children killed, sorry murdered, by Israel then. The photos from Gaza speak for themselves about the indiscriminate murder being carried out by the IDF ( even their hostages ! ).
Well, I may prefer that Israel stop what they are doing now, this minute, but in doing so I am accepting that Hamas will regroup, rearm and start all over again. For others this is not acceptable and I cannot in truth demand that my preference be acted upon. That said Starmer's position has evolved (see below).Unfortunately as an active member of the Labour Party I don't think your voice is being heard.
I have no idea. & neither do you. It's a war. Not that you're interested. You appear almost as ill informed as wqw. Although with him it's deliberate
OK, understandably you don't trust Hamas figures. How about HRW figures ( broadly similar to the UN figures ) ? 5,500 children ! "Taking all precautions to avoid civilian casualties" - my arse. Just murdering in the way civilians - just as bad as Hamas - both Hamas and the IDF / Israeli government are murderous terrorists - only one is better armed.I have no idea. & neither do you. It's a war. Not that you're interested. You appear almost as ill informed as wqw. Although with him it's deliberate
Good choice of source material but those figures are from 22nd November, nearly 5 weeks ago - we can be absolutely certain they are much higher than 5,500 now.OK, understandably you don't trust Hamas figures. How about HRW figures ( broadly similar to the UN figures ) ? 5,500 children ! "Taking all precautions to avoid civilian casualties" - my arse. Just murdering in the way civilians - just as bad as Hamas - both Hamas and the IDF / Israeli government are murderous terrorists - only one is better armed.
Israel/Gaza Hostilities Take Horrific Toll on Children
An estimated 5,500 children have been killed in the Gaza Strip since October 7, according to Gaza’s government media office, amid widespread airstrikes by the Israeli military. Hundreds more are reported missing and may be trapped under the rubble.www.hrw.org
Just replying in amazement and to await your Pavlov dog screams of laughter emoji.Those numbers are direct from Hamas. Who weirdly also never have combatants in their instantly made up 'figures'.
Tbf, you're only interested in Jew hate so there's not going to be a conversation between us without it, is there Hamas boy
Not at all. I'm simply stating that the poster I'm replying to is regularly Antisemitic. It colours things somewhatJust replying in amazement and to await your Pavlov dog screams of laughter emoji.
No idea on why you support this murder of civilians so avidly.
Your logic states that 30% of Israeli's are Anti Semitic for disagreeing with the incessant bombardment of Palestinian civilians by an extreme Right Wing ****.
164 IDF military against 28,000 Palestinians. Up to 10,000 bodies are still buried under bombed buildings. Could anyone dispute that possibility?Good choice of source material but those figures are from 22nd November, nearly 5 weeks ago - we can be absolutely certain they are much higher than 5,500 now.
Can you find a more updated estimate please?
In my opinion, less anti semetic, more intolerant of Jewish/Israeli lies than you, and unwilling to accept the excuses given to cover these lies up.5 mins to
Not at all. I'm simply stating that the poster I'm replying to is regularly Antisemitic. It colours things somewhat
In my opinion, less anti semetic, more intolerant of Jewish/Israeli lies than you, and unwilling to accept the excuses given to cover these lies up.