[News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

[Zeberdi]

So it was Trumps plan then?

Yeah - just like it was Guy Fawkes’ ‘Plan’ to blow up the Houses of Parliament in 1605 - not all plans work and some are just downright machiavellian …some are both

Only your media calls him rightwing, he is a New York Democrat for all intense purposes,

You won’t mind if it’s the New York Democrat, AG Letitia James, who‘s going to be convicting him of fraud then?

(for all intents and purposes )

 

[aolstudios]

Only your media calls him rightwing, he is a New York Democrat for all intense purposes,

"Intense purposes" & a Trump supporter.
Has to be a parody account, surely?

 

[Justice]

Have you seen what he has said about this current crisis. I genuinely think that dementia has set in to your man. Like you, he is meant to be a right wing populist but has called the militants ‘smart’ whilst criticising the Israel far right leadership.

He called Putin a smart guy to

 

[Bakero]

 

[Zeberdi]

Absolutely shocking - been pulling a few people up all through this thread for exactly that, implying all Palestinians support terrorists - but the BBC?? No wonder there’s so much Islamophobia in the UK.

 

[LamieRobertson]

Related to that but perhaps but perhaps a different angle …there’s a fair number of reports regarding a ‘bias’ by some people working for the BBC Arabique service with employees indicating support for the Hamas action etc through their social media and actual paid reporting

 

[Bakero]

Related to that but perhaps but perhaps a different angle …there’s a fair number of reports regarding a ‘bias’ by some people working for the BBC Arabique service with employees indicating support for the Hamas action etc through their social media and actual paid reporting

Examples?

 

[LamieRobertson]

Insightful stuff from Peter Hitchens here

Surely not I’ve always been told on here that anyone who writes for the DM is a clown

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Absolutely shocking - been pulling a few people up all through this thread for exactly that, implying all Palestinians support terrorists - but the BBC?? No wonder there’s so much Islamophobia in the UK.

The BBC are pretty much always equally damned by all sides, just like they are in domestic politics. They're on a hiding to nothing really, same as any serious broadcaster worth their salt

 

[Eeyore]

Absolutely shocking - been pulling a few people up all through this thread for exactly that, implying all Palestinians support terrorists - but the BBC?? No wonder there’s so much Islamophobia in the UK.

Yes, not good. Although the BBC have been far more reasonable and rational in their reporting than most.

Although I am a BBC fan and often get slated for it.

 

[nicko31]

Surely not I’ve always been told on here that anyone who writes for the DM is a clown

Stopped clock and all that...

 

[nicko31]

They got it wrong but admitted it, they didn't need to be dragged kicking and screaming through Ofcom

 

[Zeberdi]

The BBC are pretty much always equally damned by all sides, just like they are in domestic politics. They're on a hiding to nothing really, same as any serious broadcaster worth their salt

Hamas are a barbaric jhadist group - the vast majority of Palestinians don’t support their aims and means - it’s a strange time to choose to jump in and defend such a really ignorant example of racial profiling - which is discriminatory- I expect our journalists to be better informed on the issues - nothing to do with politics or bias - it is Islamophobic - and a dangerous lack of attention to detail given the current climate.

It was an error and they have apologised but people shouldn’t be dismissing it - words matter.

 

[Hamilton]

Absolutely shocking - been pulling a few people up all through this thread for exactly that, implying all Palestinians support terrorists - but the BBC?? No wonder there’s so much Islamophobia in the UK.

Whoa! They made an error and put it right.

You'll not find the Daily Hate ever doing that. Or Fox News.

Let's not start accusing the BBC of fuelling Islamophobia. A lot of its reporting has been right down the middle and has shared the pain and concerns from both sides.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Hamas are a barbaric jhadist group - the vast majority of Palestinians don’t support their aims and means - it’s a strange time to choose to jump in and defend such a really ignorant example of racial profiling - which is discriminatory- I expect our journalists to be better informed on the issues - nothing to do with politics or bias - it is Islamophobic - and a dangerous lack of attention to detail given the current climate.

It was an error and they have apologised but people shouldn’t be dismissing it - words matter.

Sorry, much as you're doing your damnest to control the narrative of this thread, you don't get to do that. Your POV is your POV. Other POVs are available

 

[clapham_gull]

Surely not I’ve always been told on here that anyone who writes for the DM is a clown

They generally are. I find with Peter Hitchens, 95% of what he says I disagree with but 5% you often total agreement on.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

'BBC gets 1,500 complaints over Israel-Hamas coverage, split 50-50 on each side​

Objections divided almost evenly between those who say there is bias against Israel and those who think it is against Palestinians'

BBC gets 1,500 complaints over Israel-Hamas coverage, split 50-50 on each side

Objections divided almost evenly between those who say there is bias against Israel and those who think it is against Palestinians

www.google.com

 

[Zeberdi]

Let's not start accusing the BBC of fuelling Islamophobia. A lot of its reporting has been right down the middle and has shared the pain and concerns from both sides.

My niece and some of her ex- student friends was on that March in London ( it wasn’t all Palestinians btw) and said it was overwhelmingly a peaceful March and heard no calls for Hamas…my niece is black so I know a little something about racial issues …Where ever racial profiling occurs whether by accident or deliberate - it should be pulled up and called out - which the BBC comment/mistake was even if it was an inadvertent error.

Racial profiling and Islamophobia exist as does anti-semitism - its not a POV

The BBC apologised so they know that too.

 

[Zeberdi]

Sorry, much as you're doing your damnest to control the narrative of this thread, you don't get to do that. Your POV is your POV. Other POVs are available

Fair enough- I’ve posted a lot - too much - and apologise to everyone - I’ll try and post less ..but I will answer if someone has directly quotes me …

I try to be balanced and fair and understand see other people‘s POV but guess with relatives in Israel, friends of family with kids doing military service, and 2nd generation Holocaust survivor - I am involved- have been for years and what’s going on in Israel is literally causing divisions in the wider family .. and all very distressing- if I’ve made anyone feel they can’t post alternative views, I apologise for that too.

I haven’t tried to control the narrative or bully anyone or been rude - at least that’s not how it’s seemed to me, I think I’ve articulated what is essentially a fairly middle of the road majority opinion on here but I’ve done so too loudly and too much that I know

Please feel free to put me on ignore or post more -or whatever - of course your views are absolutely valid and I’‘m sorry if you have felt my posts haven’t allowed you to express them - there’s enough conflict in the world without me adding to it on here.

 

[Leekbrookgull]

A lot has been said regarding this current conflict but behind the scenes are there actually any genuine talks between potential power brokers in this situation. By that will the Americans be talking to the Chinese or Russian's etc about trying to prevent an escalation of military action?