Arguably it’s the exact same thought process which led to the spate of coups in sub-Saharan Africa back earlier in the summer. But whereas those people were attacking the Governments they held responsible, in Palestine they are attacking the people they regard as their oppressors (Israel).
You forgot to include under an oppressive regime?Israel is after Hamas
Gaza has more than one group of fundamentalists jihadists operating or with influence- the PIJ being the main potential successor
Hamas being ‘destroyed’ leaves a power vacuum and a western friendly government like the PA in the West Bank wont wash with fundamentalists (that was the reason for the split by Hamas in the first place from the PA) - more cause for radicalisation
You may destroy Hamas but you will never destroy radical fundamentalists Islamist ideolgy
If you bomb an entire population into submission after forcing them to live for nearly 60 years in what is effectively an open prison under severe hardship, on land gained by illegal occupation …… then tell them they no longer have any right to land upon which one of the most important mosques in Islam is built and that they need to go live in the desert -
(Egypt has her share of Jhadist fundamentalists too - not least those that spring up from the Muslim Brotherhood)
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They are already involved surely? ……it’s suggested they MAY get further involved but through Hezbollah with the possibility of opening a new front
Yes - absolutely and posted as much earlier in the thread - but he was/is even more now unpopular now because of his security fcuk up, Natanyahu may be mortally wounded politically that’s why he ‘weaponised grief’ so quickly in the first few hours of the attack - a sick animal is more dangerous than a healthy one.
That’s a great part of what’s going on here I think - Iran’s position in the Arab world may be a key influence on the trajectory of the Israeli-Hamas conflict along with the US’s non-nuclear proliferation stance with Iran mentioned above - I posted quite a few articles on all this up thread some days ago - (one of which posted again below) Iran and Saudi Arabia signed a normalisation deal with each other in March so geo-politics has moved on from Iran being an isolated player - Saudia Arabia has been in normalisation talks with Israel though under the auspices of Biden’s administration in exchange for nuclear power and improved security - but that threatens Iran’s relationship with Saudia Arabia - clearly Iran won’t recognise the State of Israel so any Arab-Israel normalisation would leave Iran isolated again
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Good that some sense seems to be prevailing. Mildly annoying that it's being driven by the yanks.
Who would you rather see doing this instead of the US?
Indeed, any of the below !!
Hope you are right but I can’t see much in there either way at the moment- Israel has been promising for days to allow aid in, but there’s no way for it to get in with the border closed - the US has been involved from the beginning with supplying Special Forces and military hardware - also trying to negotiate hostage release and get their citizens out but are also very partial to Israel. You may not like the Yanks but I think they are the only Country who can work with Jordan and Saudia Arabia to de-escalate relations with Iran
They are the only Country or organisation Israel will listen to.
Agree ... Especially with the last sentence.
Thank f**k its not Trump in charge at a time like this. Very tricky situation....
