[News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

[Bozza]

Was about to click play, then thought nah don't want to rile myself up just before going to bed

Someone (@borat?) posted it earlier and I watched it.

It's actually a great watch - Bassem Youssef tackles the subject with dark humour and intelligence.

I didn't know where Piers Morgan had gone these days but, for me at least, he didn't ruin the interview.

Bassem Youssef wasn't someone I knew before, so I checked him out afterwards. He currently lives in LA and it looks like he tours - he has some dates in Australia coming up. I'm going to keep an eye out to see if he visits the UK as I'd go to see him live.

 

[matthew]

Piers not at ease.

Just sometimes injustice can only be tackled with humour

Really good interview, I don't understand how can be on Ben Shapiro and Jeremy Boeing's side in any argument they are deluded.

 

[borat]

Someone (@borat?) posted it earlier and I watched it.

It's actually a great watch - Bassem Youssef tackles the subject with dark humour and intelligence.

I didn't know where Piers Morgan had gone these days but, for me at least, he didn't ruin the interview.

Bassem Youssef wasn't someone I knew before, so I checked him out afterwards. He currently lives in LA and it looks like he tours - he has some dates in Australia coming up. I'm going to keep an eye out to see if he visits the UK as I'd go to see him live.

He was in the UK touring in March this year (South Bank). Looked into him a bit more and apparently hes a former heart surgeon and a good friend of Jon Stewart (ex Daily Show). Two v smart guys who use humour to convey their message.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Looks like @Live by the sea is besmirching NSC - https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/23863948.can-ceaseless-cycle-killing-israel-palestine-end/

Equally shows those that accused him of having multiple accounts are right - hello @nick rhodes !

 

[Machiavelli]

This is a quite brilliant article written by a Brighton resident:

Mired in trivia, British political discourse is utterly unfit for times of war | Rafael Behr

Wise heads choose their words painstakingly and experts feel speechless, but here the void is filled with ignorant chatter, says Guardian columnist Rafael Behr

www.theguardian.com

 

[Machiavelli]

Yep. And, having worked with / for Israelis in the past I know it plays very well to their own supporters. Unfortunately, it makes many others think they care more about BBC reports than the deaths of hundreds of innocent people.

I'm not the greatest fan of 'balance' but in the interests of more than one side and the complexity of this situation, there was a representative of Hamas on C4 News last night who delivered an appalling interview. It was qualitatively different from the likes of Regev, who is one of the most effective communicators out there -- I admire the delivery but, underneath it, there are some dark positions mixed in with light and facts.

 

[chickens]

Looks like @Live by the sea is besmirching NSC - https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/23863948.can-ceaseless-cycle-killing-israel-palestine-end/

Equally shows those that accused him of having multiple accounts are right - hello @nick rhodes !

Disappointing, but he’s pointing people towards the site, and they can make up their own mind.

 

[BBassic]

Looks like @Live by the sea is besmirching NSC - https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/23863948.can-ceaseless-cycle-killing-israel-palestine-end/

Equally shows those that accused him of having multiple accounts are right - hello @nick rhodes !

Good grief, some people need to just not be online quite so much.

 

[Guinness Boy]

This is a quite brilliant article written by a Brighton resident:

Mired in trivia, British political discourse is utterly unfit for times of war | Rafael Behr

Wise heads choose their words painstakingly and experts feel speechless, but here the void is filled with ignorant chatter, says Guardian columnist Rafael Behr

www.theguardian.com

Good read that.

"I struggle to respect the judgment of Conservatives opining on a military conflagration when, two weeks ago at their annual conference, they were earnestly demanding an end to a fictitious war on motorists."

*nods*

 

[Algernon]

Looks like @Live by the sea is besmirching NSC - https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/23863948.can-ceaseless-cycle-killing-israel-palestine-end/

Equally shows those that accused him of having multiple accounts are right - hello @nick rhodes !

If he's going to use "alt" accounts on there and reply to himself he really should disguise his writing style a bit better.
Of maybe N Rhodes and Nick Wright are both genuinely afflicted with space before a full stop syndrome.
What a sausage replying to himself.

 

[BadFish]

Looks like @Live by the sea is besmirching NSC - https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/23863948.can-ceaseless-cycle-killing-israel-palestine-end/

Equally shows those that accused him of having multiple accounts are right - hello @nick rhodes !

He said he has never had an account on NSC . . . Just a slightly unusual approach to punctuation (leaving a space before and after the comma) shared by two or three posters over the years.

A style also favoured by Nick Wright on the Argus website apparently. Who would have thought there would be so many people making this mistake. They must all live by the sea or in a bushy.

 

[AK74]

Looks like @Live by the sea is besmirching NSC - https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/23863948.can-ceaseless-cycle-killing-israel-palestine-end/

Equally shows those that accused him of having multiple accounts are right - hello @nick rhodes !

In addition to Nick Rhodes, I see the comments section now has a reply from John Taylor.

Soon there'll be responses from Simon Le Bon, Roger Taylor and Andy Taylor*, and the Duran Duran line-up will be complete**.

*I know he's ill right now
**I'm not expecting anything from Warren Cuccurullo

 

[Guinness Boy]

He said he has never had an account on NSC . . . Just a slightly unusual approach to punctuation (leaving a space before and after the comma) shared by two or three posters over the years.

A style also favoured by Nick Wright on the Argus website apparently. Who would have thought there would be so many people making this mistake. They must all live by the sea or in a bushy.

Lest we forget...... (note dates and the fact he's still reading the site)

 

[BadFish]

Lest we forget...... (note dates and the fact he's still reading the site)

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Wow those bloody wild boys, it's like the union of the snake isn't it.

You only see a coincidence like that once in a new moon on Monday on plant earth.

 

[AK74]

Wow those bloody wild boys, it's like the union of the snake isn't it.

You only see a coincidence like that once in a new moon on Monday on plant earth.

He's notorious.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Wow those bloody wild boys, it's like the union of the snake isn't it.

You only see a coincidence like that once in a new moon on Monday on plant earth.

 

[Bozza]

Can we leave that there, please, and keep this on topic.

The discussion of this conflict is really difficult to moderate, but I feel it's an important thread to remain open if at all possible. I have learned far about Israel and Palestine from this thread in 11 days than I had in the preceding 40 years of my life. Many thanks to everyone who is exercising caution when they post.

Antisemitism remains a terrible scourge. Jewish people have the same right to live in peace and free of fear as any of us, both in Israel and anywhere in this world they choose to live. I can't imagine how it must be to live feeling the need to always check over my shoulder, just in case some nutter wants to make a hate-inspired point.

If people use NSC to try to spread antisemitic messages, we will remove the messages, ban the protagonist from using the site for life and, if I feel it merited, I would make a report to the police for further investigation.

The same applies to islamophobia, homophobia and all other discriminatory categories currently covered by UK hate speech legislation.

I look at Facebook, X, Instagram and TikTok and I despair of much that exists there around this subject. Those who post potentially illegal hate speech, vile abuse towards others and graphic photos/videos of gruesome death scenes are allowed to continue unchecked. That isn't permitted on NSC, and never will be.

Like wider society, NSC isn't perfect - we're a reflection of the people who choose to post here, but we remain open to robust but respectful debate of key issues.

 

[aolstudios]

Can we leave that there, please, and keep this on topic.

The discussion of this conflict is really difficult to moderate, but I feel it's an important thread to remain open if at all possible. I have learned far about Israel and Palestine from this thread in 11 days than I had in the preceding 40 years of my life. Many thanks to everyone who is exercising caution when they post.

Antisemitism remains a terrible scourge. Jewish people have the same right to live in peace and free of fear as any of us, both in Israel and anywhere in this world they choose to live. I can't imagine how it must be to live feeling the need to always check over my shoulder, just in case some nutter wants to make a hate-inspired point.

If people use NSC to try to spread antisemitic messages, we will remove the messages, ban the protagonist from using the site for life and, if I feel it merited, I would make a report to the police for further investigation.

The same applies to islamophobia, homophobia and all other discriminatory categories currently covered by UK hate speech legislation.

I look at Facebook, X, Instagram and TikTok and I despair of much that exists there around this subject. Those who post potentially illegal hate speech, vile abuse towards others and graphic photos/videos of gruesome death scenes are allowed to continue unchecked. That isn't permitted on NSC, and never will be.

Like wider society, NSC isn't perfect - we're a reflection of the people who choose to post here, but we remain open to robust but respectful debate of key issues.

Amen

 

[Hastings gull]

Can we leave that there, please, and keep this on topic.

The discussion of this conflict is really difficult to moderate, but I feel it's an important thread to remain open if at all possible. I have learned far about Israel and Palestine from this thread in 11 days than I had in the preceding 40 years of my life. Many thanks to everyone who is exercising caution when they post.

Antisemitism remains a terrible scourge. Jewish people have the same right to live in peace and free of fear as any of us, both in Israel and anywhere in this world they choose to live. I can't imagine how it must be to live feeling the need to always check over my shoulder, just in case some nutter wants to make a hate-inspired point.

If people use NSC to try to spread antisemitic messages, we will remove the messages, ban the protagonist from using the site for life and, if I feel it merited, I would make a report to the police for further investigation.

The same applies to islamophobia, homophobia and all other discriminatory categories currently covered by UK hate speech legislation.

I look at Facebook, X, Instagram and TikTok and I despair of much that exists there around this subject. Those who post potentially illegal hate speech, vile abuse towards others and graphic photos/videos of gruesome death scenes are allowed to continue unchecked. That isn't permitted on NSC, and never will be.

Like wider society, NSC isn't perfect - we're a reflection of the people who choose to post here, but we remain open to robust but respectful debate of key issues.

Well said. Absolutely correct.

 

[keaton]

Fan Snow's history hit podcast have an episode on the history of the area

Dan Snow's History Hit - Israel, Gaza and the West Bank: A History

In light of the complex and tragic situation unfolding in Gaza and Israel, this episode looks at the past 100 years of the history of the region of Palestine. As well as explanation from Dan, we hear from experts who have been on the podcast before to explain the background to the conflict we're...

podcasts.google.com